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we used to rely exclusively on newspapers, radio, or letters for information. so limited, so slow. no way to “fact check” unless you were there on the frontlines. now we have endless resources to access information, the ability to fact check in minutes if not seconds, and… the majority of the world just doesn’t. this is egregiously bad on tiktok (more on this below). i know it is human nature to default to system 1 thinking (lol Daniel Kahnemann reference): fast, intuitive, emotional. i know that we tend to process information in ways that reinforce our group identity. and i know that emotion drives virality. and so ofc i know that if we keep treating misinformation as an individual problem, this will only get worse. platforms like groundnews are great, but that’s opt-in so it attracts users who already care about truth (unfortunately that’s magnitudes smaller TAM). to me it is much more interesting to think of it as a platform problem. with AI, the design space could expand significantly (but obviously comes with its own risks). two good built-in platform examples: - twitter community notes on inaccurate tweets cut retweets by at least 50% and increased user-initiated deletions by 80% (but right now it is too slow, should be done within an hour not 12 hours!) - twitter reminding users to read an article before they retweet actually reduced blind shares by ~33% (a little bit of friction can be a good thing!) tiktok, however, hasn’t done anything really at all. some labels for COVID, a politifact and snopes partnership i never saw, and a bullshit STEM feed for “reliable, vetted data” (hint: it was a paid partnership for two science brands to get guaranteed distribution). the most dangerous feature of tiktok, imo, is its algo-driven echo chambers. it can ensure the content you see is what you want to see, that the comments are what you want to read. it pushes users deeper and deeper into self-reinforcing narratives. you can scroll for hours and never be exposed to an alternative perspective on a single topic. when users are exposed to entirely different information ecosystems, there’s zero foundation for shared discourse. this has got to be the most powerful, least visible force driving division today. SAD!!!
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@zoo
related: https://farcaster.xyz/azbest/0xf4a4d06a
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You sound like my family member who works at Meta who rants about all of the things TikTok can do that they can’t, but Cuckerberg desperately wants to do. Well, probably now they can with trump. Making dangerous armchair experts more dangerous
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Yesterday I watched an entrepreneur on the My First Million podcast/channel show an example of one of the most lucrative tiktok posts made via the content farm strategies he implements. He was so proud of it, and it was a random young guy tapping into conspiracy theory paranoia to sell snake oil supplements. 😐
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What if there were “opposite days” where your algo flipped to show you content on the other ends of whatever multitude of spectrums your content falls into
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@mooneymillions
I’ve thought about this recently. I wrote a blog/thesis that the cost of information is going to $0, so the evolution is social scoring (for both individuals and organization). I think Ethos Network is a current leader in social scoring, with their traction on X. I hope they come to FC next! It helps to authentically cut through noise.
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@samantha
lol yeah the tiktok echo chamber goes crazy 😭 I can’t imagine being in high school and reading those comments
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@ericolsz
Okay but this has always been the case, it's just much worse now. To the point that if there is the potential for disagreement, some zoomers will just remove themselves from the situation. This is human nature. Most people don't want the truth, they just want acceptance.
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It’s absolutely a platform problem. Internet problems require internet solutions. Community Notes is an Internet solution, but it required external pressures on Elon and Meta to be implemented. Their existing incentives had to be threatened, and so far nothing is threatening TikTok’s. The more I use ChatGPT as my computer it seems obvious that one day I’ll be using it or something like it to filter all of my feeds. An external force like that could then flip incentives for the platforms.
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What we need is more transparency and independent audits of algorithms used by platforms that hit X scale/size. The algo black boxes and lack of liability on those building them thanks to Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (CDA) are the starting point. Information dispersion already exists, very different info and experiences across platforms like QQ, WeChat, Yandex, VK on top of the ones you mentioned. Anything platform led is just handwavvy whilst behind the scenes the lobby government to not change regulation.
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interesting point that the "news cycle" for X content runs much faster than the feedback loop for community notes. If you're reading a community noted fake post, you're probably late to the game anyway (e.g. would it have even appeared in your algo timeline if it didn't already catch the attention of many other people). I think this news cycle will keep speeding up more and more as content gets cheaper to create. if one creator can leverage AI to produce 5 pieces of content per day instead of 1, they probably would - and it would need to be shorter to accomodate a fixed total attention span of the network. I'm interested to see what happens to the idea of "reality" within the context of media as AI gets better and better and becomes indistinguishable from boutique cottage industry human content.
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THIS!!! I am most worried about how people’s versions of the “truth” diverge from each other so starkly. I am bullish on using onchain attestations to prove metadata and factual accuracy. Kind of like a linked tree for facts. TikTok has a huge problem - hence all the zaddy Zohran videos from people who have no idea what he stands for.
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What if in a future where the second you post, it was fact checked and marked with a fact check indicator/scale/percentage at launch by an unbiased system. That being said... AI still has a way to go before getting there, as has been seen by Grok on X where it has painfully been obvious that Grok was wrong and had no idea.
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building better platforms, better UX, and better social systems forr information are all v important but feels important to _not_ give up on or even invest less (money, time, effort) in developing individual capacity to do actual critical thinking about information received. wrote something last week about this: https://vaughntan.org/meaningedu
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@evangreenberg
What’s up with the Tik tok sale?
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@aakash-xyz
Agree wholeheartedly. It seems like everyone with a phone and internet access feels the need to broadcast an opinion that hasn’t been fully formulated. The point is further lost when it is clear (my assumption) that these opinions are formed by regurgitating clickbait headlines to articles they didn’t read, let alone explore in more depth from more sources. It really became apparent to me with this past election- people are treating politics like it’s their local sports team. Suddenly the policies enacted aren’t evaluated objectively which is dangerous to say the least. My hope for decentralized platforms is that truth can become increasingly crowdsourced. I’m not sure what the road looks like exactly to get there, but posts like these give me faith that there are others out there who prioritize facts over narrative.
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@garrett
most people just want to be entertained and most people don't want their beliefs to be challenged
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@azbest
This isn’t solvable on an individual level, you need the state to help out here, and most countries actually know that. For example: https://mpf.se/psychological-defence-agency
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@chrislarsc.eth
Not sure you decouple this from shareholder value
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@cyrus
not to be a doomer but pretty sure this is unsolvable as long as attention is an economy, media is a business and people are free to choose one idea I worked on was making factual content more rewarding (in every sense) assuming its possible to get to more verified content (not easy) it’s just incredibly hard to compete against speed, emotion and power.
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