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Varun Srinivasan
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Should Farcaster add a "staking" verification system? Please reply! Users can get "verified" badge by staking $10 USDC in a contract. The stake can be reclaimed at any time, but will only release after a delay (maybe 4-8 weeks). Verified users will get the following benefits: - Badge on profile. - Access to video uploads. - Show up higher in conversations. - A small boost in the rewards program. The goal is to make it harder for spammers to verify so that good humans on Farcaster have a better experience!
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I think there’s enough evidence to show $10 is not enough barrier - spammers spend $2-$3 per account on creating multiple spam accounts - clusters of lower quality accounts bought $120/yr pro subscription Also keeps increasing complexity for new users who aren’t spammers who now need to understand many different kinds of badges and verifications Not convinced ROI is +ve
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Agree. Dealt with these types in DAOs and it’s the same issue. One-time $10 for potential $20/wk in rewards is worth it.
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Agreed. Additionally, Neynar score and OpenRank might be more effective ways to filter out spam accounts than requiring a $10 stake.
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Strongly agree here. Not enough of a barrier and too much complexity for new users. @v @dwr.eth Coordinated Farmers are ruthlessly economically rational. Many paid the Pro sub bc they think ROI is bigger than $120/yr. This staking amount wouldn’t deter them at all. *Maybe* if there’s slashing for certain behavior but that would be difficult to get right.
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The never ending cat and mouse games continue. I understand the need to do something, but this raises more questions than it will answer https://farcaster.xyz/zoo/0x055e542a
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Farcaster shouldn't become more and more expensive just to prevent bots from joining.
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the protocol is far too cheap to spam, it's an existential flaw fc gets lumped in with "web3 social" and snapchain is p2p but there's no crypto-economic relationship between the node operators and the clients, it's not a blockchain without that component, and moreover imho it's not a sustainable model at scale there's very little cost or penalty for bad behavior, everything hinges on a centralized spam rating that can and will be gamed, and spam actors will grow exponentially in both number and sophistication while merkle's anti-spam efforts will only ever grow linearly $10 staking isn't enough, and the only correct answer to the pricing question is "what is the EV of spamming the network" - currently it appears to be quite good shy of a $50+ annual fee, i think there's a number of viable approaches here but none without drawbacks - eg worldcoin verification, or protocol level reputation mechanisms i think DNS+SMTP have a lot of history and lessons learned that i suspect we could borrow from
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it’s really hard for new users to prove they’re real. I felt the same way before I got some followers. it just feels sad to be met with silence every time “cause I look like a bot”.
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+1 on too complicated already with badges, even I lose track
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It’s not enough barrier, but I think it’ll slow it down a bit
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How do spammers buy accounts 2 times cheaper if as I know Farcaster charges 4-5$?
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Really sharp points, my gut reaction was $10 wouldn’t hit the mark but 100% in support of ANY iterative experiments on this with staking mechanics and believe ROI would be validated real quick.
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I totally agree.
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