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There's this weird strawman version of capitalism used by Marx that many still cling to, and which seems to have completely ruined any discussions around financial incentives.

For some reason it irritates me a lot when people argue about a word, but they have completely different definitions of the word 😅

"Greed" and "capitalism" are not synonymous. Capitalist mechanisms can (and should!) exist without greed as a primary driver. Marx was absolutely correct in calling out capitalism as being easily co-opted by the greedy, but when the word capitalism is used as a stand-in for the word greed, it really just makes the conversation more confusing and difficult.

The word "capitalism" is now broken and useless and IMO people should stop using it, unless they very explicitly define it first.

Humans are greedy by nature and capitalism facilitates unbridled greed.

Any system facilitates unbridled greed. 
Religion, politics and even non profits. Non-profits have created a safe haven from taxes and destroyed the American medical system.

We cannot look at capitalism as a lever for greed. It is just another tool that can facilitate anything you want to accomplish in life.

This is what it means to use a tool. You want virtuous actions at scale? Capitalism can do that. You want to feed the poverty stricken? Capitalism can do that.

Tools should not be blamed because of the user.

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The other thing I forgot to mention is that non profit organizations exist in capitalism and in socialism. Non profits are not inherently socialist just like for profits aren't inherently capitalist. The difference between socialism and capitalism is mostly related to who owns the means of production. I think you might be equating socialism with a wealthfare state. Welfare states do exist in capitalist systems. Not to complicate things even further but non profits also aren't really defined as part of the welfare state. Since you brought up non profit hospitals I will use that as an example here. 57% of hospitals in the USA are structured as non profits, and yet the USA has a relatively weak welfare state compared to most developed countries and many people would consider the USA one of the "most capitalist" countries in the world.

Non profit status only needs to have higher expenses than revenue.

Massive companies like Seton Ascension will use their non-profit status to acquire smaller facilities, pay their board hundreds of millions, and expand their medical facilities all injured to maintain non-profit. 

The non-profit allows them luxuries that for profit companies do not receive like tax brakes and less inquiries on unfair practices. Which is why their employee’s make well below the average pay rate for their profession.

They took our twins the moment they were born, put them in the NICU for a month, only because they were born early. They performed no tests, only had them in a infant bed. Nothing special and charged us $750,000 for babysitting.

It’s corrupt because they don’t have to answer to anyone. Lawyers won’t touch the non-profit case because of the red tape. For profit corporations are easier to sue or control because they aren’t protected.

Capitalism naturally leads to tragedy of the commons, which is why Earth cannot sustain a capitalist system.

Also, how have non profits destroyed the healthcare system?

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Yes most definitely.
But to an extent.

The conversation should stay top of mind. As long as either side isn’t rallying for extremist action.

The tools should be bound though?,

It's rampaging through society taking whatever it can, and people are just numb to it

1) First, I am sorry you feel "lol" at the end of my sentence there was somehow negative. I think you are reading too fart into that there. I was merely saying that as I forgot to include a request for you to explain that part of things for me in the longer response I had just typed out. I was more laughing at myself for the omission than anything else.

2) I appreciate that you voted for me at the end of CTG but claiming I play the victim is somewhat insulting and also rather negative. I never once claimed that I was a victim during CTG. I actually almost never mention my medical situation on here or to people I do not know personally. During CTG I wanted to explain what I would do with the funds if I was chosen a winner and at that point a little background information was needed to give people the full picture. "Not a builder. Not a doer." is once again rather insulting. I actually moved countries in order to put myself in a better position to be able to deal with my medical needs and expenses.

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I don’t appreciate the ‘lol’ in this conversation. It strikes me as a negative way to ask a sincere question.

This is why I had to unfollow you. I started off feeling for you and your situation during CTG and even used my vote for you at the end but once I started following you regularly I realize you play the victim. Complaining about how things should be. 
Not a builder. Not a doer.

Just please let the rest of us make things. I still think your situation sucks but just let the rest of us make things happen and don’t try and bring everyone else down with you.

Oh and please explain how capitalism can feed the hungry lol