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crypto: we care about privacy and e2ee so we prefer to use telegram

also crypto: we will take screenshots of your telegram messages and post them all over web2 social media

*not all of crypto, and definitely not much of farcaster

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https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple

ooooooh didn’t realize this was something you could turn on TIL 👀

was confused about the actual state of e2ee on tg

if you use telegram because you care about privacy and e2ee then you didn't get the message at all.

Telegram is not E2EE and not private! 

One needs to manually turn on E2EE in Telegram and most don't!

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i like how durov in the interview repeats that people are smart and that's why they switch to telegram for privacy

when in fact it is the polar opposite: people are stupid enough to believe that the only popular messenger without e2ee is somehow "private"

your tg messages are stored on the servers in plain text

boro has been beating the drum for like a year about how telegram is not e2ee

wondering how we switch to signal as an industry - seems like we won’t 🤷‍♂️

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i know and i agree, although i think telegram's current network effects have us locked in

this cast is less about telegram/e2ee and more about crypto's own discrepancy between stated / revealed preference, especially when tribalism arises

boro has been beating the drum for like a year about how telegram is not e2ee

wondering how we switch to signal as an industry - seems like we won’t 🤷‍♂️ 

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It feels a bit to me like features and signaling are more important to people than actual privacy/security.

Why did the Prius do so well when there were other, arguably equal or better, hybrids available? The leading theory is it looked unique which sent a stronger signal about the owner's supposed values.

network effects i guess

more people are on telegram and they are easier to find on telegram

I still find the preference for Telegram over Signal a bit odd. I know it's shinier, but Signal is arguably more private and secure.

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Which is interesting right as we think (& people are building for) non-crypto people will one day care about privacy / ownership ya da ya da when in fact we barely do?

the point is

most 👏 of 👏crypto 👏 does not 👏 care 👏 about 👏 privacy 👏 when 👏 tribalism 👏  is 👏 at 👏 play

telegram 👏 does not 👏 use 👏 e2ee

(except secret chats but literally no one uses them)

Well timed as I’m talking to a guy today who is all in on decentralisation but a large part of his biz plan is buying a ton of web2 profiles and selling the customer behaviour data from them? Ends justify the means ??

Arguably nothing said in text form regardless of encryption is private thanks to screenshots. Just assume you have no privacy online and conduct yourself as such.

psa: telegram is not e2ee unless one uses the secret chat feature