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Final budget number is $170 billion for ICE.

…. versus $8 billion budget for ICE currently.

Considering that ICE ran out of "dangerous criminals" immediately and started raiding work sites and courthouses, you really have to wonder why they need such a massive budget...

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Fr tho, i thoughof this too. They might have overshot it with that Ice budget 😂. I guess it gets reviewed when imigration gets under control

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That's the thing though... immigration in the US is under control. The main reason why there are so many undocumented people in the US is because the paperwork process is so slow... and that's USCIS not ICE.

Honestly man, with $170B, I think way more people than just undocumented immigrants are going to be targeted.

I dont think i’ll agree with the statement under control, if people keep crossing the border. 
And being undocumented still means they came in illegally in the first place documentation after breaking the law doesn’t and shouldn’t change that

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So it’s not necessarily the people but the unintended consequences of them entering illegally. I agree thay there needs to be something done about the human trafficking and abuse they are subjected to, but imo that has to do more with immigration policy rather than the border. If it was easier for people to come and work, then they wouldn’t need to cross illegally. 

I don’t think you can actually work in Mexico with a tourist visa. You need an FM2 so unless all digital nomads are filing for one, I would they are in the country illegally. Which makes immigration a class issue from my perspective- if you have money you can move wherever.

There is a big problem with illegals you see. It cant be compared to digital nomads - who according to their visas have the right to stay in a country and work, provided they meet certain criteria.

The presence of Illegals entering a country like the US breeds a toxic environment in many ways. 

1. It creates an underground market for human trafficking and smuggling into the US which is mostly handled by gangs from other countries. 

Lemme paint a picture for you - a family wants to get to the US for some reason, they contact people with access in their home countries that collect payment to help with movement and setting it up (as on one does these on their own). The problem is this contacts are often gang affiliates who exist and trive in the US because of the illegal immigrant market.  And these gangs grow and have more power because they can do whatever they like without fear of being snitched as you don’t expect an illegal to go reporting matters to the police. This gives them leverage to commit all sorts of crimes without even getting noticed by law…

What exactly is the issue with people coming to the USA illegally? They come to work and with hopes of a better life?

The reason I am asking is because I have a hard time understanding why this is a problem when there are a lot of digital nomads moving to Mexico and doing the same. They might enter the country “legally” with a tourist visa but then stay there and live there. Is it the amount of people that is the issue?

It's very difficult to get illegal border crossings down to zero, especially with such a massive border on all 4 sides... so I guess the question is... what number is acceptable?  And when does the cost outweigh the benefit of securing the border?   In a country of 330M, is 1 million too many?  Is 500,000? If they're adding value by working certain jobs, what cost is too much in securing the border?    I truly don't know the answers to any of these questions... but you can't let the cure be worse than the problem.