Learning about that El Salvador jail USA is sending people to and confused - is it viewed as too merciful just to kill these people? Not to mention executions would be the cost effective choice  

Imagine having to eat rice and beans with your hands for decades. At that point just put me down like a dog 

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My bet is the US pivots more toward prison labour to onshore manufacturing. Maybe that's the threat: Make shoes and shirts for pennies or go to El Salvador.

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Oh that’s interesting idea 
I wonder what the jobs are that can be done that way and how hard the training is relative to other prison jobs like wildfire fighting 

Prisoners are not making semis. But maybe Nikes

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Debating with a friend whether America is capable of producing the kind of strong union culture that facilitated the manufacturing boom of the 1950.

Or perhaps America decides to further leverage and scale the prison population instead.

Prison labour is already quite popular in private prisons. Just a matter of scaling it. Your very own planned economy in a (bunch of) box(es).

Prison labour is already quite popular in private prisons. Just a matter of scaling it. Your very own planned economy in a (bunch of) box(es).
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Yea I do agree that the pay gap (and generally being unwilling to pay labour wages the market is signaling) is creating a ton of friction.

Also my fav onscure take: poor transit and traffict is substantially contributing to labour costs.

I was talking to a landscaper a few years ago and he was lamenting how he used to be able to service 3-5 clients every day, whereas now it takes him so long to get around that he can only do 1 or 2 each day. He still has to pay the same bills, so he has to charge more per client.

Tangential but I would say to the point of your OP

At the point of peak industrial capacity in USA CEO pay was 20x the worker. There were both structural and ideological reasons for this. Capital was held to a stakeholder mentality and there was a  sense we were truly all in this together 

Today, CEO pay is 300x the worker. We do not pay labor well enough for the desired work ethic 

My sense is that you could get the same energy at 5x 1950s but 1/2 today so 150x pay

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Which states are you thinking? The largest ones (California and Texas) failed to pass meaningful reform last o saw, and isn't the minimum wage ridiculously low? Not the same as for non prisoners.

Don't get me wrong, both are happening, I just think this will be a dark sick pivot for "onshoring" cheap labor.

Actually it’s a bit more convoluted than that bc States of been either outlawing prison labor OR mandating minimum wages/labor protections, SO the GEO Group has made a huge pivot into investing into… drumroll please…


MIGRANT DETENTION CENTERS! So I think as well as leasing or just straight up selling labor to El Salvador, we will be extorting, for slave wages, our already debilitated undocumented migrant workforce…

Yeah the fact that California couldn't pass a no slavery in prison amendment last election just shows it's an Open secret, totally broke my brain I assumed it was an easy win 🤢