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phil
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Why do so many famous Founders have a reputation for being complete assholes to their employees? Elon, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, etc. Were they successful because of this behavior, or in spite of it?
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Phil Cockfield
@pjc
As an inverse dataset, what's the counterpoint? What famous founders were (or are) deeply loved by their employees? One well loved dude I can think of is Patrick Collison. Also, Sam Altman fared pretty well over the weekend. (on the asshole side â, my feeling is that it's "in spite of" but with nuanced caveats).
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Dean Pierce ðšâð»ðð
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I wonder where Woz fits into this. From what I understand he was universally loved and well respected, and actually built all the tech Apple was founded on. I wonder how many top technologists stayed for Woz, despite also having to put up with Jobs' bullshit. Was it a good cop bad cop thing, or is that oversimplifying?
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Phil Cockfield
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Certainly Woz was/is an affable genius. It's nuanced eh? "bullshit" (in quotes) of Jobs is so hard to separate from the talent/genius. Many people loved him so deeply & had the most productive times of their careers within that forcefield. Perhaps its when non-genius emulates the surface ugliness alone it gets ugly.
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