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Why do so many famous Founders have a reputation for being complete assholes to their employees? Elon, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, etc. Were they successful because of this behavior, or in spite of it?
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As an inverse dataset, what's the counterpoint? What famous founders were (or are) deeply loved by their employees? One well loved dude I can think of is Patrick Collison. Also, Sam Altman fared pretty well over the weekend. (on the asshole side ↑, my feeling is that it's "in spite of" but with nuanced caveats).
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I wonder where Woz fits into this. From what I understand he was universally loved and well respected, and actually built all the tech Apple was founded on. I wonder how many top technologists stayed for Woz, despite also having to put up with Jobs' bullshit. Was it a good cop bad cop thing, or is that oversimplifying?
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Certainly Woz was/is an affable genius. It's nuanced eh? "bullshit" (in quotes) of Jobs is so hard to separate from the talent/genius. Many people loved him so deeply & had the most productive times of their careers within that forcefield. Perhaps its when non-genius emulates the surface ugliness alone it gets ugly.
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