Dan Romero avatar
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Why fiat-to-crypto stuff is hard in the US, prioritized by difficulty 1. Fraud … … 2. Regulatory 3. Fiat Partnerships … … … … 4. Sales … … … … … … 5. Tech / UX / design
✳️ dcposch avatar
Cards have bad fraud properties. You enter your secret numbers into lots of websites, hand them to waiters. There are big spreadsheets of stolen card numbers available on the dark web. App onramps from Paypal, Robinhood, .. & eventually bank apps should be lower fraud and therefore faster and cheaper
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Dan Romero avatar
Right, the issue is fraud on the fiat side…after you sell someone a user controlled cryptocurrency :)
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✳️ dcposch avatar
ya for sure it's on the fiat side. do you think the problem is primarily 1. people buying crypto with other people's money (stolen card info, etc) 2. people buying crypto with their own money, then doing a fraudulent chargeback or a secret third thing?
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Dan Romero avatar
At Coinbase it was roughly 50/50 stolen payment method fraud and “friendly” fraud
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✳️ dcposch avatar
makes sense. custodial crypto has a huge advantage here since you can make the coins show up immediately but lock withdrawals for a while.
Garrett avatar
Who does it best today in your view?
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Dan Romero avatar
Coinbase on their website. Everyone else is meh.
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Degen Karl avatar
Agreed
Michael Pfister avatar
Does world id solve fraud, or at least drastically reduce the volume that is happening today?
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Dan Romero avatar
depends how much detail a world id proof reveals to the onramp
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Leo avatar
Appreciate you sharing and explaining all this.
Koolkheart avatar
Also wild how fast banks pull support once you mention crypto. You’re working with who??
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Mihai Anca avatar
Working on it every day 🫡 I would put regulatory and banking relationships at the top, we have the least control over.
Crypto Taboo Intern avatar
It’s not a tech problem it’s a trust and compliance minefield.
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