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Dan Romero
@dwr
Agents and stablecoins (I'm focused on American consumers here.) 1. Most consumers have most of their money in fiat in a bank account. Bank accounts offer: FDIC insurance, debit / ATM cards, good integrations with other financial services like credit cards and bill pay. It's unusual for people to not have a bank account. Will that change over time? Sure. e.g. Cash App, Robinhood "Banking", etc. But will be decades long process. 2. If most consumer money is in a bank account, then the most addressable spend is in the form of cards -- debit and credit cards. Consumers have these products and use them daily. They are extremely pro-consumer -- basically universal acceptance, chargeback / fraud protection, and if you're wealthier points. 3. In order to get consumers to use stablecoins: a. the bank account needs to support stablecoins. Most consumers will not switch bank accounts just for stablecoins. So little pressure for bank to adopt. In fact, adding stablecoin support makes it easier to switch banks. Banks also make money from card payments. b. if not banks, consumers need an incentive to hold larger stablecoin balances in non-bank apps. Coinbase does this with rewards. But banks also can offer interest, so the marginal difference is going to be low and most people won't care to maximize. c. yes there is a version of the world where consumers earn stablecoins through apps, e.g. Farcaster Rewards, but that's still small today. If it scales -- great! 4. Absent a near term shift for much bigger consumer stablecoin balances, agentic stuff will just end up using cards. Stablecoins still probably win on the b2b and backend financial plumbing side in the long run, but all of the near term stuff with AI is going to bias for what consumers use today.
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DepressiveHacks
@depressivehacks
Banks objectively want to outlaw stablecoin rewards. Coinbase wrote a whole post about it today. If that happens, why would the 0.0001% bank interest compete at all with the 1%+ interest that onchain stables can offer? I don't see that as a competition. I see it as the legacy system trying to protect itself through gatekeeping instead of innovating on behalf of its customers.
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Shira Stember
@shira
Merchants could move behavior. If USDC lowers their costs due to lower processing fees, then they’ll nudge it and consumers will feel that pull.
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KMac
@kmacb.eth
Somewhat related, Is the protocol treasury in stables? Is the treasury being used to issue weekly rewards yet? Bank switching is such a PITA. I have a hunch they won't see churn figures as much as a decline in deposits. Frog in pot that takes 10 years to boil.
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Erik
@eriks
one thing im considering will be if we continue to move towards a more investment driven and risk on consumer versus the historically cash/savings driven consumer robinhood has the right angle in my view, have everything in order to compete - invest in stocks, crypto, earn yield, borrow, use leverage, place bets, switch to cash, pay for things, all from the same account, and w 24/7 access and liquidity in the coming decade i think the banks will need to offer a similar “everything account” hard to say if the bank offering will be sufficient on the liquidity side without stablecoins involved
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headless horsefacts
@horsefacts.eth
Re #1 I am definitely an atypical consumer but have noticed the Coinbase One card rapidly change my incentives and behavior here. "Pay bill from Coinbase balance" is pretty great and I'll be moving a bunch of cash I would have otherwise held in deposit/money market accounts to USDC on Coinbase.
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Shaw
@shawmakesmagic
I think there needs to be at least one working demonstration of multiple agents interacting with each other on a platform that people use. This could be a game. It could be anything. Mostly what I hear from people is virtual reality / metaverse. Sounds cool. But I’m not putting that shit on my face, so it’s ngmi. Solve the obvious problems before trying to build an “L1 agent network” or bullshit like that, IMO
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Fran
@0x99fran
People dont change banks. They die and their kids move the money to their bank. No point trying to convince current users to change. Gotta go to young people without money and wait for them to have enough money to matter.
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accountless.eth
@accountless.eth
@hennadios
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Writ
@writ
I don’t think a dam-break event is out of the question.
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PostPatriotLagrange
@eulerlagrange.eth
https://farcaster.xyz/eulerlagrange.eth/0x43e9d839 Tokenized deposits will win for. American consumer payments
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MrGox
@mistergox.eth
Revolut already lets me send and receive stablecoins, bitcoin and most crypto too The problem is that nowhere accepts them
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Lukáš
@luqas699
new meta.
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@noicebot
https://app.noice.so/?castHash=0x3e721e70152bae08d3629bf4e3982dc195dbf73d&timestamp=1759180229790
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@kenny
"Stablecoins still probably win on the b2b and backend financial plumbing side in the long run" what's the advantage stablecoins have that makes that happen?
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