I hate the new channel changes. Passing the buck to channels to implement spam moderation feels like a cop out. Big channels don't have the resources to constantly patrol for spam. The client should be responsible for a minimum level of spam filtering. I don't think Warpcast has solved spam filtering yet and passing it off to channels isn't the answer.

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Ah nice! Feel like openrank is in a good position to build something useful around this. Will keep an eye out. Thanks!

I feel for you, I'm overwhelmed even with a 2.7k follower channel. @sahil said they were coming up with a solution, hopefully soon!

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I think the cool thing about it being open data is anybody can build a spam moderator bot of the sort you describe, right? It'll just take some time?

And even @warpcast can offer that as a service if they don't want to throw their code away (I suspect they won't, or if they do it'll be on a trial basis, as they are really aggressive on sunsetting capabilities that don't get extensive usage)

I agree in part. The first attempt at spam filtering didn't work, because of the Us vs Warpcast dynamic. They labeled a lot of real people and contributing members of the network as spammers. Of course people would get mad.

But I don't think that means spam filtering should solely fall on human moderators. There's some clear indications of spam like repetitive messages over and over of completely out of context posts. AI generated gobbily gook. Warpcast has raised a shit ton of money at an incredibly high valuation. The hard problem to solve is spam. Imo they should focus on solving it.

So channels can have up to 10 moderators now... if the channel can't find 10 serious moderators then isn't that a problem with the channel itself? Because IMO they tried automated filtering and it is always going to create an us vs. Warpcast dynamic, which is unhealthy.

Now it's an us vs. community moderator dynamic, and the option is always there to splinter and create a new community -- market forces at its best IMO.

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I for sure will be happy to help moderating /lp

If you ever want help moderating /lp , let me know. I know it’s not your immediate concern. Just throwing it out there.

I agree. A few of the big channels (like superrare) have been overwhelmed. It feels like a cop out by WC.

Do we need to set up a Ham Council to help moderate the channel so you can focus on making magic? 👀

if you need any help, I'm more than willing to give a helping hand....

I def think this is a valid opinion on the matter.

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Give channel hosts a week to adapt. There are still a lot of bugs to squash. Invites did not work as planned. Lots of people feel slighted and it’s just because of bugs.

And the spam label is still an issue. I see people still struggling to get into channels that should be an easy slam dunk but struggling.

This was the intention all along. Force the community to deal with the spam problem. It’s brilliant, slightly evil maybe.

it's a mess... people say it will calm down after a few days... but that doesn't mean i like the new changes bahahah 
do you need mods? extra hands? 👀

Definitely isn’t solved yet. Agreed 100%

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agreed

spam should be at the user level

let them spam, let me report and block, and apply spam filters of varying degrees 

I’ll curate my own feed and so will everyone else

this will ensure also that “what is spam” is decided by the people

@lightcap.eth we discussed this exact issue over martinis ln 😆

was just telling someone about this this morning, it isnt working and i dont really see it working for larger channels

I got the same feeling 
Pass the hot potato