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Is private messaging in Warpcast independent to the protocol or a farcaster feature?

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Private messaging based on double/triple ratchet is hard to do without a server that routes messages. You also want to support push notifications, delivery if your phone is offline for awhile etc.

It’s hard to do and retain the privacy properties. My FIP goes into detail on how to provide it in the decentralized context:

Working on building zkTLS infra/products. A ruthless empiricist and meme connoisseur.

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It’s hard to do and retain the privacy properties. My FIP goes into detail on how to provide it in the decentralized context: https://www.github.com/Farcasterxyz/protocol/discussions/99

Any thoughts on waku?
- see answers by @fryorcraken to @v's question below
- How well does it align with the fairly comprehensive FIP?

Technowatermelon. Elder Millenial. Building Farcaster. 

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Building @waku at Logos.co / free.technology

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Any thoughts on waku?
- see answers by @fryorcraken.eth to @v's question below
- How well does it align with the fairly comprehensive FIP?
https://warpcast.com/v/0x6c0022

Public space ops, App integration facilitator @brightid

I ran into the same problems with whisper, which was why I invented Triple-Ratchet from my experience with building MPC systems 😄

form non expert pov these look exactly like waku concerns debated uncompromisingly for a long long time since they hit the wall with whisper ages ago. @fryorcraken.eth can definitely give the details in the language that is clear.

I’d need to dig into more of the details, but at least from the thread, what was built is impressive. For parity, it would need:
- perfect forward secrecy
- repudiability
- analysis resistance
- out-of-order messaging
- all of these properties in group messaging