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citynouns

City Nouns: A global network of city-based Nounish DAOs celebrating culture, creativity & governance. Powered by Nouns Builder. Founded by @zamees & @rdubb.

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Exit Prop to go live <12hrs [1/8]: Introduction City Nouns Cohort Exit Proposal 🟧 We’re sharing our full exit proposal here in this thread so everyone can read it clearly, section by section. This proposal offers a structured, fair exit for early contributors whose vision no longer aligns with City Nouns.

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## 🟥 P1 Cohort Response to Exit Negotiations Hey everyone, We need to be perfectly clear about our position on the exit proposal given the direction these discussions have taken. @zamees , we have been patient, and are beginning to tire of the heel dragging. 1 post to the community server every 3 days does little to show you are prioritizing our cohorts desire to exit in good faith.

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Trying to get @zamees attention be like :

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So we haven't had direct communication from the 'active' founders in nearly 3 days concerning negotiations of an exit. We would very much like to participate in discussion with other DAO members before submitting our proposal. I understand that it's summer and everyone wants to enjoy the weather etc but please find time to review our offer and provide feedback. https://github.com/IYK-YK/IYK-YK-DAO/blob/main/links/CityNounsExitOffer.md

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@rdubb you haven’t even staked into the DAO , what do you mean “active founders” I have been participating in this project since day one. Secondly , the founder shovel tokens were intended to be distributed to the first 12 unique individuals to purchase a City Noun . That seems to be the case but I’ll have to recheck the addresses. Regardless , it is an interim solution much preferable to a hand selected committee . You continually try to dismiss valid concerns as petty and contrived but I believe the facts speak for themselves.

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Its all onchain 🔗🔗🔗🔗 The die are cast 🎲🎲🎲🎲 Let's all hold hands and pray 🙏🙏🙏🙏

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I’d be remiss not to clearly state this: the issue with Prop 10 is not a personal dispute — it’s about potential Sybil activity tied to the Gnosis Safe. Multiple parties believe a founder may control more than one signer wallet. That’s a serious red flag, and it wouldn’t even be a question if DAO process had been followed and Safe signers were approved through a public proposal and vote. What makes this even more concerning is the precedent set in Props 8 and 9 — both of which consolidated decision-making authority without broader consent. We’re now looking at a compounding pattern of centralization and process bypassing. If we care about the integrity of City Nouns governance, this vote matters. Time to summon the vote. @metamu @civilmonkey @zaal @scottrepreneur.eth @oceanandsea @failoften @hildabroom @digitaldreams @fattybuthappy https://nouns.build/dao/base/0xdf4f168ba41c88ab4d0f1e2117110600c7e44b6d/vote/10?tab=votes

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Really sort of sus to put a set of major props through on a Friday knowing it expires on a holiday. Thank golly someone got a counter prop up in time to avoid this abhorrent veto power. Why such a short window ? (2days) Because the founder safe used City Noun #0 to vote the window shorter before even more than 4 voting tokens could sell. Despite the fact that Buildr had stipulated a longer voting window when funding City Nouns. Not against any rules, but not necessarily good faith action either. Seems like there has been a lot of less than good faith action in the short time since launch, beginning with props 1 & 2. Prop 1 used City Noun #0 to aridrop 2 tokens each to 3 founders, and a prop to shorten the voting goes up before enough votes to counter are sold. So far the prop history is starting to read like a classic attempt for some founders to capture the DAO early while creating the illusion of decentralization. The suspect Sybil activity certainly doesn't help.

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I am incredibly excited to see Prop 10 up just in time to skirt the abhorrent veto power recently granted to the interim Council by props 8 & 9. @metamu @hildabroom @civilmonkey @scottrepreneur.eth @oceanandsea @digitaldreams @fattybuthappy @zaal Please take the time to read through props 8 & 9’as well as the objections noted in the votes . Prop 10 goes live for voting in 8 hours and we need every vote to right this ship :) https://nouns.build/dao/base/0xdf4f168ba41c88ab4d0f1e2117110600c7e44b6d/vote/10

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Does anyone else think it is strange and perhaps a bit ominous that 5 of the 7 wallets that voted yes on prop 8&9 have either received their tokens from @zamees , have been funded by him , or are associated with his ENS ? Ever since the removal of co-founder @digitaldreams and the subsequent cancelling of her proposal I have been watching very closely. Ask me what I've seen. @metamu @civilmonkey @hildabroom @fattybuthappy @scottrepreneur.eth @nounishprof

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There are legitimate concerns that this governance structure may violate the spirit of open-source DAO governance, particularly around decentralization, transparency, and the ability for dissent. The City Council is empowered to define and enforce ethical standards. This introduces a centralized enforcement mechanism, potentially conflicting with City Nouns DAO's commitment to decentralized governance, where power is ideally distributed through token-based voting. The clause allowing the Council to determine “official” conduct could enable subjective or politically motivated enforcement, especially without a transparent appeal or checks-and-balances system. The prohibition against “guerrilla literature” or altering values through “undemocratic means” is concerning & could stifle dissent. This is an open source a feature often seen as vital in open-source cultures like City Nouns DAO /builder https://nouns.build/dao/base/0xdf4f168ba41c88ab4d0f1e2117110600c7e44b6d/vote/9?tab=votes

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I believe in City Nouns’ mission — and that’s why I oppose this proposal. City Nouns was founded on open-source values: decentralization, transparency, collaboration, and community-led governance. This proposal contradicts those principles. It introduces a centralized “Council” with vague authority, retroactively assigns veto power, and attempts to redefine the role of a founding contributor without consent or vote. You can’t change the rules after the game has started. I stepped back temporarily due to breakdowns in collaboration and communication. That does not erase my role as a co-founder, nor does it justify removing me from the multi-sig wallet I helped set up or rewriting the DAO's history through off-chain documents. I support structured governance — but only if it's truly accountable to the community, not consolidated behind closed doors. The appointed Council was not elected - https://nouns.build/dao/base/0xdf4f168ba41c88ab4d0f1e2117110600c7e44b6d/vote/8?tab=votes

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After careful review, I’m voting NO on this proposal—not due to disagreement with its intent, but because its structure is premature, its assumptions unratified, and its language poses risks for a decentralized governance system still establishing its legitimacy. Reasons for NO: 1. Council Legitimacy: The proposal derives authority from a governance framework that lacks broad endorsement, making it difficult to accept ethical enforcement powers based on an unratified body. https://nouns.build/dao/base/0xdf4f168ba41c88ab4d0f1e2117110600c7e44b6d/54?tab=activity

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Congrats to @fattybuthappy on winning token #53 -- welcome to /citynouns!

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Two important votes close tonight (Sunday, June 15): Prop 8: City Council Governance Framework https://nouns.build/dao/base/0xdf4f168ba41c88ab4d0f1e2117110600c7e44b6d/vote/8 Prop 9: Mission + Vision + Values + Code of Conduct https://nouns.build/dao/base/0xdf4f168ba41c88ab4d0f1e2117110600c7e44b6d/vote/9 Happy Father's Day to our dads in the community!

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