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@itsbasil
i love this place but it’s not getting any better. i talk to four or five builders every single day, and over the past few weeks, the tides have started to turn. almost everyone i’ve spoken to who’s trying to build a real, scalable product with the intention of surviving across cycles is seriously questioning the direction of base & exploring alternatives. it’s heartbreaking. nobody — not a single person i’ve spoken to — wants creator coins. not one. the only people building in that vertical are the ones trying to fix the very problems they created. we’re perpetually pushing ten people on zora all with deep coinbase relationships. what does this have to do with base blockchain? half of them aren’t even builders & more than half of them won’t be here in a year. can we be honest about that? it’s not even because they’re bad ideas, but because they launched on a creator coin launchpad that makes zero sense. are they creator coins? are these projects? why is there a trading competition? none of this makes sense. why are we forcing a square peg into a round hole just to sustain a broken narrative that doesn’t make sense? do you know what builders really want? they want a faster chain. they want gas stability & sponsorships. they want $10k checks. they want to build on YOUR blockchain, not build around it, not forced into an app chain or elsewhere. you ARE the blockchain. build the blockchain & support the folks building on it. that’s all they want. that is your only job. instead, we’re throwing invalidated shit at the wall — doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on failing, directionless projects while real, multi-person teams with momentum & traction get ignored. we hide behind greed, ignorance & inertia, pretending not to see what’s happening right in front of us. talk to the people. this isn’t good. they are not happy. they are leaving. you think i’m loud for clout on a 100 person network? i am loud because these builders are my friends; because i am building with them. i’m loud because they don’t care to be: they are ready to throw in the gloves. we’ve learned nothing from the lessons that came before — from friend tech, from virtuals, from zora x5, from farcaster, from tba, from crypto itself over the last eight years — why are we ignoring all of it? why? do we really not see this? again? for the nth time? this only goes ONE way. please, can we be real? farcaster tried to build for creators for THREE years & got NOWHERE. what about lens? what about every single attempt before? what about the last 5 zora models? cmon, man… these are people’s livelihoods; these builders have families, children, spouses. they quit their jobs to build on YOUR chain; to strengthen YOUR network, to make YOU money. why are we doing this? and now, we’re about to push another unvalidated model as if Jesus came down from the heavens & wrote the code himself — one that lets founders dump FIFTY PRECENT of their token on their holders, with zero connection to fundamentals, revenue, product, or users. just another attention game, another cycle of manipulation… zero validation, yet we’re rolling it out across multiple pads, multiple teams, as THE model that will feed the hungry, pushing it top-down. come on. we laughed at binance for asking 8% for a listing. the whole base community joined in: “how absurd! we don’t want the largest exchange in the world dumping on us!” and yet here we are, pushing creator coins with fifty percent insider ownership whose ENTIRE purpose is to be dumped on their own communities… launchpads with fifty percent insider ownership whose ENTIRE purpose is to be dumped on their own communities… it’s just sad. genuinely sad; and it’s painful to hear the same thing, every day, from people who’ve been here for years. i just don’t get it anymore.
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Thank you for the feedback! I'm now leading product for Base Platform, so can respond to some of this. - Pushing chain level innovation is very important to us. Right now scaling is our #1 priority, but we're also excited about things like the Solana bridge. Very open to feedback on what you want to see prioritized here. - Base is a big team. The app is one of our product priorities. Just because we are working on the app does not mean the chain is not a priority. We can probably do better making this, and the lines between our products, clearer. - Zora *is* in fact a big chain customer. They drive a lot of blockspace demand. We are prioritizing customers. - We are going to take risks and bets. We think we need to grow the pie 100x. From the Platform point of view, we support the Base app and all our other builders to get us there.
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lots of respect to zora team but how much of the zora being the "big chain customer" comes from you guys constantly pushing it and giving it exposure on all levels? what about other builders building in the same vertical, the ones that came way before zora and have built great products that users love to use? e.g. why don't you guys treat @retake the same way as you do for zora? Why don't you guys push creators to create coins and livestream there? Why don't you guys give them the same exposure? Why don't you guys list their token so the team can continue building with a longer runway? There is nothing wrong with creator coins, but it seems base as a chain is picking winners and operating like a cabal
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Love to see the core team chiming in here to respond. I personally love that we have Base App + Farcaster + Zora + … any other social frontend available to compete for mindshare and MarketCap. With the right UI/UX/Algo any of these platforms can serve the right content to the right people. Keep trying different incentives and media formats. If you’re a builder - follow builders. If you’re a consumer - follow creators. We have builders. We’re lacking creators. Top tier creators are an important unlock for growth of the consumer audience. Builders want users. Businesses want customers. Consumers are customers. All that matters is growth.
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