Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Going through (some) bitcoin maximalist tweets is fun because it's like a time machine into ideas that most people have long since understood are incorrect but some still fervently believe. (Actual reality: seignorage is at most like 10-20% of govt revenue; even if all countries dollarized, govts would be able to fund almost as much war as they do today) https://x.com/knutsvanholm/status/1978384607599841418
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
The actual libertarian pro-peace position is: 1. We want to work on technologies and political and cultural changes that reduce barriers to exit from countries that start aggressive wars (and while not ideal, it's actually not that bad if exit is only accessible to elites, because the whole point is that it's deterrence: if your country goes evil, then the people who play the most central roles in keeping your machine going all leave) 2. If you reduce governments' ability to control their populaces, the economic value of "controlling a mass of people" goes down, which also decreases the incentive to go to war
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@m-j-r
to the second point, the republic/confederation is ideal as they contain an unstable perspective on overpowering an unruly environment. to the first, exit is a natural right, hence the general pattern of refugees. I don't think there should be any sort of immunity to democratic war weariness, but for that to be true, elites should be geographically bound to the responsibilities of powers that allow them to consume capital which is ecologically bound anyway. for libertarianism to generally secure peace, there must be a complete account of capital and power between regions such that the natural right of exit is least infringed by capita (politically compatible with populist labor), and any party can represent any conflict in negating the flow of capital and power between regions.
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qt
@qt
Point 2 > second half of point 1
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flick the dev π©π¦
@flick
there's not many people left advocating the libertarian pro-peace position happy to see you are still one of them
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drive
@dr1ve
I'm curious why u still haven't joined @ethos-network π€ @serpinxbt built decent reputation tool working on Base network. U might be interested Legend π https://app.ethos.network
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hyzo
@hyzo
Hm interesting π€
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preegee.eth
@preegee
There would be nations that have "nothing to lose" And so, the deterrence by exit may not work for them A more complete libertarian peace model should include: 3. Economic Progress through domestic policies and global cooperation. Prosperity depends on cooperation and destroying peace = destroying their own growth Tl;dr Incentives for growth rather than sanctions for war
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Mike | Abundance π
@abundance
you also need to create the economic conditions that make war less likely simply defunding govt, without providing any scalable alternative for public infra, does the exact opposite
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gurabang
@gurabang.eth
Peace
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nitin007
@nitin007
When did you first heard of bitcoin ?
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