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Mantej Rajpal
@mantej
tbh I disagree with a lot of Zohran’s platform, but I am happy bc the younger generation has been largely disenfranchised with politics and this victory can be a catalyst for them. Someone polling at 1% in November coming out and beating the status quo proves the system isn’t completely controlled by the establishment. The “Mamdani is a socialist and people who vote for him are just stupid” rhetoric is very tired. I find myself coming back to this Thiel email from 2020 — the more interesting discussion here IMO is _why_ did New Yorkers come out this strong for a self-proclaimed democratic socialist?
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Purp🇵🇸
@purp
I think some of the hysteria over him being a socialist is hilarious. His grocery store idea for instance, in this scenario giving subsidies to corporations to move in and sell groceries good, but giving that same money to subsidize at cost food products bad, good look convincing people that's a winning bet long term
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Daniel Fernandes
@dfern.eth
correct, the subsidies are the problem, not "did you subsidize demand or supply?"
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Purp🇵🇸
@purp
I mean, how much does nyc( and to a greater extent new york spend) on food assistance programs for new york specifically? Hard to say subsidies bad in this scenario from the fiscal savings standpoint( this is money all ready budgeted for subsidizing corporate grocery stores) or from the standpoint of the 20% of new york city residents that receive snap?
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Daniel Fernandes
@dfern.eth
True it's not big in the grand scheme of things, but generally the scope creep that happens when government is directly employing retail workers will mean add-on grift when the opportunity strikes (e.g. taxpayer-backed pensions, union-lobbied mandatory staffing levels, labor agreements, etc).
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