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Interesting Reddit post on Japanese business culture re: disagreement (never experienced it myself)
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Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1llrx6i/non_japanese_people_living_in_japan_what_is_the/
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This is a westerners approach to Japanese business... I'm not advocating the Japanese way of business (it can be quite pedantic), but westerners are all Upfront/Verbal/Obvious Visual clues only and miss out on the subtlety of Japanese personality and culture. For a Japanese company doing international business, I don't think this is great, because it leads to said post's frustrations and business mistakes. But fact of the matter is, for Japanese they are actually being quite open in their standards via body language, facial signals and trigger words which actually mean they are in opposition to your idea or think it's going to be a hard sell... politely. It's just that their hardwired "saving face" culture stops them from openly opposing or refuting someone, especially if its a customer/guest. If it was an internal, there may be more back & forth. There is a word called "Nemawashi" in Japan, where in meetings you don't go in to a meeting to have robust discussion, brainstorming and make decisions. You go in to meetings to agree on everyone's pre-organized consensus. Nemawashi is the act of meeting with everyone BEFORE the meeting to ensure they are onboard, so that you can all agree IN the meeting about what you spoke about earlier. Yes, tedious... but this is the old way of earning agreement. I will finish this rant with a little story about Kyoto... the most read between the lines people ever. A Japanese person visits their Kyoto acquaintance for a business catch up. After some time and chat, the acquaintance smiles and offers to the man "Can I give you another cup of tea?" The man understands that in Kyoto, this is your que to leave and says "No, thank you. It was nice seeing you" Next an overseas man visits the same Kyoto acquaintance for a business catch up. After some time and chat, the acquaintance smiles and offers to the man "Can I give you another cup of tea?" The overseas man says "Sure, I'd love another one". "What a nice fellow" thought the overseas man as he drank his 3rd cup of tea.
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Jason
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Mom’s experience has been to go drink with them
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This is why I hire interpreters and not translators. I need someone to tell me What really happened. I’ll leave a meeting where I assume everyone’s on board because we agreed to move forward with the next steps and my interpreter will tell me that they’re not on board at all and nothing‘s gonna happen after that Meeting. as an American it drives me up the wall
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It is similar with Korean culture, afaik - never question elders, which may have led to korean air safety related issues.
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I’ve been there. You find out where you stand if you need approval .. for anything. I wanted to buy ITO Glass from Nissha some years ago. We met for over 2 months. We needed a chop from every engineer to move ahead .. remember.. to *buy* something. In the end, the team lead would not add his chop. No discussion. Idea/product dead. We built in China instead at the factory making iPhone glass in Xiamen, TPK. They couldn’t have cared less. We pushed a hard charm offensive at Nissha/Japan. Even answered the trick question: who was Nissha’s first customer? Ans: Nintendo in 16th century. Japan is obscure and inscrutable as a culture. Trust is basically impossible for outsiders. But that’s a feature, not a bug.
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Japanese business culture and language is a whole different subculture that needs special interpretations.
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