0xen 🎩
@0xen
public ledgers, open source, DAOs, CC0 are all far left coded ideals. curious how the more right leaning crypto space squares these bedrock concepts.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Generate revenue.
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0xen 🎩
@0xen
strange bedfellows innit
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@thumbsup.eth
DAOs or user-owned networks are like cooperatives. Cooperatives can earn revenue. The distinction of capitalism’s versus socialism’s “revenue” is the profit incentive and who gets the profit. Especially because they also have the power over how the company is run (and in oligarchies, how the country is run) Don’t let anyone tell you that money, markets, or income has to be absent from leftist ideology; it’s a big tent. Leftist conception of these things, which as you mention is very much coded in line with the web3 we’re building, is about equitable distribution of surplus revenue and democratic control of the organizations. I don’t think people on the right understand the bogeyman they think they’re fighting. Red scare propaganda and garbage propaganda like “The Little Black Book of Communism” built a wall of bias that even Gorbachev couldn’t tear down.
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Dan Romero
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> Red scare propaganda and garbage propaganda like “The Little Black Book of Communism” built a wall of bias that even Gorbachev couldn’t tear down. It's not little. 100 million dead. Ask anyone who has actually lived in a communist country how great it is. :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
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Dan, seriously. Two of the books authors revoked their authorship and the numbers don’t add up. They’ve even admitted they made it up. Here’s a solid debunking with citations, but there are quite a few if you try at all to check your bias. It’s CIA dribble baby. Sorry to ruin your favourite book for you. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7n6ql2/is_the_black_book_of_communism_an_accurate_source/
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
OK, 50 million dead. Are you disputing that communism killed more people in the 20th century than any other ideology?
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Dan Romero
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OK, I can't argue with someone who is living in this reality. For those that make it this far, DYOR. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivization_in_the_Soviet_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Fields
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kripcat.eth
@kripcat.eth
@dwr.eth for a person who is clearly very intelligent, competent and eloquent; you never seem less reasonable and less capable of nuance than when you are talking politics. Why jump straight to authoritarian communism when there is clearly an entire world of policy settings between there and an-cap? These are MAGA, “free-dumb” talking points. ‘You have problems with the current system? Then clearly you are advocating for famine and death camps’ Is it so difficult to concede that something to the right of Stalin and left of the Democrats could achieve something worth having, acknowledging that many people do not have e/acc, max GDP growth, max capital accumulation as the goal for society?
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Dan Romero
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I provided links to well-documented historical cases of communism. You accused me of MAGA, “free-dumb” talking points. Ad hominem. But I’m the less reasonable and capable one. :) Communism doesn’t work. Ask anyone who has lived in a communist country.
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