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@ds8
i think it's time we draw the line between having an uninteresting feed (root casts) and being an actual spammer many people here are very close to lurkers, only casting habitual stuff (yes, e.g. framedl*), but they engage in replies, thoughtfully and humanly having algo decide to not show their replies in notifs is just downright harmful for the network it's not how we should build cozy corners *—plus they cast within a channel, the purpose of which is partially that—to group content that may be uninteresting to those who aren't members or followers
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@andrei0x309
I agree completely; I have said this many times now. Don't hide anything, like all social media platforms do (Twitter, TikTok, Reddit, Bluesky, etc.). Only hide content if users opt-in to hiding; that is the expected behavior. The issue is that Warpcast caters to a few high-maintenance VIP users who are too lazy to press a toggle to opt-in, so most of the network has to suffer because of that. The only place it makes sense to hide content by default is in DMs. Warpcast should follow established social media patterns and not implement such unexpected changes that negatively impact growth.
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@ds8
i'm not completely in sync with this, i think their spam algo is actually pretty solid and a great asset. but i think there are edge cases where it doesn't work and should be tuned. warpcast is not a power-user client and as such should solve for great ux first
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@andrei0x309
I don't think TikTok, Twitter, Bluesky, and other similar platforms are meant for power users. The fact is that all these huge companies have concluded that showing even bot-generated content from users who don't opt out is beneficial for the network. Warpcast's spam algorithm is a liability, a black box that lowers trust, with no concrete proof that it helps the network and no reliable open data points. It is unsustainable, untested on large amounts of data, and probably a total failure when accounts become free, if that ever happens. Again, large platforms with thousands of employees have dealt with this for decades. The traffic generated on a platform like Threads in five seconds is more than Warpcast processes in a whole day. The general wisdom is that if users are bothered by spam, they'll opt into algorithmic hiding. Warpcast should at least allow an opt-in option for seeing all content; without that option, it's a censorious platform, period.
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farcaster is neither of those and i'm not using tt/x/bs so i can't compare, but the intuitive difference is in size and sensitivity there's still very little quality content to pick from here so it's difficult to drown out spam in a way that makes it easy to ignore. i also think the average good user here is much more sensitive towards slop—either due to having certain level of taste or simply because slop often evokes dishonesty and scams. and the stakes are pretty high here, just look at the dry powder metrics
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Probably that's the assumption that the users are very sensitive to 'slop,' but that assumption, even if true, means you don't optimize for growth but for a select group of people. So, it means Warpcast has contradictory goals. Furthermore, not allowing an opt-in into 'slop' is not excusable; it's just outright censorious. The only possible reason an opt-in into 'slop' is not available is due to the fear that some of those elite users will turn it on and then criticize the product and content. Such fear is beyond lame in my view, and any company that displays that, is, in my opinion, not fit to create any social media platform. Again, we are advocating for open access and transparency, yet we don't even allow an opt-in into 'slop'?
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