df
@df
There's a reason telegram mini apps mostly suck, although telegram is a protocol and has hundreds of millions of daily active human users it's not a credibly neutral protocol, and is controlled by a for profit company with the same name there's a lesson in there
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df
@df
When building web3 protocols, we should hold ourselves to a higher bar than web2 platforms - otherwise we risk just recreating the same user-misaligned incentive systems that brought us here. "Don't be evil" is not good enough. "Can't be evil" should be the bar. Web2 platform's classic S-curve playbook of attract-extract is the reason I'm building in web3 and trying to contribute to protocols that replace platforms. Unfortunately due to little user traction there's a lot of compromises being made lately, with a "trust me later, bro" attitude which I think there needs to be some pushback on from people who are volunteering and contributing to growing something they think will be a public good
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Stephan
@stephancill
i think there are more telling reasons tbh - no feed for miniapps to leverage for distribution - no open social graph - TON is a ghost chain (probably bc devex is terrible) credible neutrality is important for long term sustainability but there is lots of precedent for thriving mini app ecosystems on centralized platforms e.g. facebook, discord, and maybe twitter/reddit if you consider third party apps in general
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@toyboy.eth
Telegram Mini Apps could have been a thriving ecosystem like web apps or even early Facebook apps—but because they’re ultimately subject to Telegram-the-company’s whims, there’s a ceiling on trust and innovation. Developers hesitate to invest deeply when the ground beneath them could shift overnight.
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limone.eth 🍋
@limone.eth
i guess you're team Warpcast + Farcaster vs. everything Farcaster? ahahah
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Tony D’Addeo
@deodad
counter points: app store, play store
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Hoot 🎩
@owl
With a chain attached that is “totally not telegram” 😛
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Timur Badretdinov
@destiner.eth
that’s a really good point tho i remember at some point telegram was trying to attract SMBs by adding features like opening hours and location SMBs could really leverage mini apps for e.g. booking but the adoption never materialized
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gentlegeeboss.base.eth
@dgentle01
The apps there were majorly built to earn by devs. They needed more users without a good plan on how to retain them. Bringing in buntch of inexperienced web2 users that think web3 is a get rich quick scheme.
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Koolkheart
@koolkheart.eth
We all want public goods, but until public goods are funded like private ones, compromise will win. What’s the actual incentive fix here?
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