Murtaza Hussain
@mazmhussain
Just insane
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amc
@amc
In fairness to this initiative, if China, India, and other rising, largely producing countries don’t sign on to climate accords are they even worth the paper they’re written on?
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Chainleft
@chainleft
China and India produce miniscule greenhouse gas emission per capita compared to the USA or EU. China especially has implemented far more green initiatives than the USA.
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amc
@amc
How would you anticipate those per capita movements as those countries continue to gain wealth? China accounts for ~30% of global emissions currently. You can twist per capita all you want. This issue only gets solved technologically
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Chainleft
@chainleft
What you call twist is typically called "data" by others but hey, whatever distracts from the USA.
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amc
@amc
I have holistic data you shifted to per capita, which I also refuted. You’re making a 10 year old argument for an “accord” that has been ineffective. Numbers don’t lie, global emissions are way up. The world is competitive, throttling energy consumption has costs too. Like I’ve said numerous times in this thread the one and only solution is technological
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Chainleft
@chainleft
US: Has 3x higher per capita than China amc: "I refuted" ... China: Accomplishes green energy boom, stops CO2 rise for more than a year amc: "Numbers don't lie"
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amc
@amc
Platued as the Chinese economy stagnates, GDP peaked in 2022. Congratulations on having 3x higher co2 emissions than any other country! A hammer sees one solution, a nail. A Marxist sees one solution, austerity. Good luck applying Marxist solutions to a capitalistic society. You’re living in academia, I’m living in the real world. Like I’ve said a half dozen times in this thread the solution will have to be technology. Sorry you want to return everyone to 1950 living standards instead
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amc
@amc
Ironic the AI evangelist lecturing me about co2 emissions per capita, maybe you should cancel all of your ai subs for the greater good
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