androidsixteen
@androidsixteen.eth
I don’t understand men who choose to father dozens (or in Durov’s case, 100s) of children, and then play little to no role in their lives Great material wealth but deep spiritual poverty — hence the need to propagate one’s genetic memory without unwinding the accumulated trauma / stewarding the next generation
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tldr (tim reilly)
@tldr
My sense is that they believe they are embracing some kind of primal "masculinity" It'll be interesting to see what other practices of the apes we decide to revitalize. Picking each other's fur clean in return for favored treatment?
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ted (not lasso)
@ted
the “primal masculinity” idea doesn’t track with what we know about actual forager societies, but is much more recent in nature. from what i studied, early human communities were actually super egalitarian. if men had lots of kids, it wasn’t some conquest thing. it was because the whole village could coparent together and fatherhood was collective. status for men came from being generous and cooperative, not dominant or reproductive. obviously modern day absentee fathers don’t fall into this and very different society today vs. the first homo sapiens, but having lots of children and tapping out isnt primal per se.
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tldr (tim reilly)
@tldr
I’m talking more about bonobos, chimps etc. The males don’t seem to know who their kids are and also take no direct interest in kids in general. The forager stuff already seems to be involving what I think is most “human” in us
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