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I've just unlocked 0 @noggles from my nounish NFTs. Put your /noggles on and join the nouniverse. ⌐◨-◨

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Been off FC ever since DUNA. Came to check in and this is the first thing I see.

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Who would have thought?

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@jarmen was the first to point out that it's all just stage show. We are just being spoon fed an outcome, and they were never going to deviate away from it regardless of the pushback.

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"Nouns was never a DAO in the first place. Didn't you know you were just 'donating' to pump our bags and fund our partys?" - the foundation

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Keep Nouns permissionless, forever. Vote at https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/662

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The voting for DUNA has just started: https://www.nouns.camp/proposals/662 Don't forget to vote!

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Something else that doesn't get talked about enough is how this will effect demand for Nouns outside of the US. For those living elsewhere, do you *really* want to be part of some random US regulatory entity?

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Lots of ⌐◨-◨

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"No, we aren't going to work with you because you aren't a registered legal entity in the US. But if you become one, then we'll work with you." 1. When has this ever happened to us? 2. Who is so advantageous to work with that it is worth throwing away our core values? 3. Anyone that has this sort of attitude towards what will clearly be the de facto organizational structure of the future *is not worth our time*. It's better to let economic natural selection take it's course until these entities are no longer.

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Some thoughts on the pro /nouns-duna vs /anti-duna perspective

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If there are other reasons I may have missed, please let me know. I want to be sure I am fairly representing the pro-DUNA perspective.

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I've been discussing with some pro-DUNA people to understand their perspective. It seems to come down to a fundamental difference in beliefs about /nouns Pro-DUNA people believe that being a conventional legal entity is the only way to collaborate with the largest (web2) brands globally. They see the core purpose of Nouns as being an onchain donation platform for IRL grants, and DUNA is optimized strictly for that. While I think onchain donations are valuable, I don't believe this is Nouns' strongest purpose. I see the key strengths of Nouns as: 1. Bringing onchain values to the real world — the Nouns brand is a gateway to Ethereum and the principles its community stands for (decentralization, censorship resistance, etc.). 2. Bootstrapping identities — Nouns are among the best PFPs, and offer a fair and open mechanism for anyone to join and participate. 3. Inclusive participation — community-driven governance structure where the best props get funded.

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If Nouns isn't permissionless, then what's the point?

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We should not be blindly following legal advice from third parties. The world of law lags behind tech. If you ask 99% of lawyers about crypto, they would tell you to never to get involved in the first place. We should strive to make new, innovative systems that align with our values.

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Unless you speak up NOW, the DUNA proposal will almost certainly get pushed through. As reminder, DUNA will remove the permissionless nature of proposals (requiring grantees to KYC) and remove permissionless mechanisms that protect the minority (like rage-quit via forking). The foundation believes a only small minority have an issue with this, but I don't think that is the case. This is a huge change that's main focus is to ease working with IRL brands, and at no point in the past had Nouns been reduced to just "IRL donations via onchain funding". We're ultimately an extension of Ethereum, which welcomes all, even without KYC. We should have the same standards.

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This is super cool!

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If we're not permssionless, then we're basically just a web2 marketing agency with an obsession with square glasses.

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Posting this absolute banger by @nekofar.eth on the the DUNA candidate prop feedback: > The Nouns Foundation is like some shady secret society now, completely cut off from the community it’s meant to serve. They’re pulling strings behind a curtain, making decisions without even bothering to clue the community in. It’s got that "we know better" vibe, where instead of actually engaging with the community, they’re doing things in backrooms, leaving the community to guess what’s going on. They’re even hijacking community resources and employees, making decisions off-chain without any transparency. No surprise people are getting frustrated. When communication’s a one-way street, you end up with an echo chamber, not a community.

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