ted (not lasso)
@ted
preface: i support jews; me asking this Q doesn’t mean that I don’t. i ask this genuinely, and i can’t be the only one confused. below is the exchange in which Kara/Scott/MSM say Elon endorses an antisemitic post. can someone explain how it is antisemitic? to me it reads as frustrated, but by no means hostile.
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Daniel Fernandes
@dfern.eth
He means 'dialectical' as in 'marxist dialectics'. As in classic neonazi talking point: "Jews foist multiculturalism on other people even as they cynically pursue a group strategy that rejects that ideology for themselves." https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2003/cultural-marxism-catching
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ted (not lasso)
@ted
understand the connection, but how do you know he means it like that..? also how is it neonazi to criticize people who push an ideology on other people but reject it for themselves? isn’t that what NIMBYism is? is anyone who critiques NIMBYism a neonazi then?
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Pete Horne
@horneps
I hold myself to the standard that being understood is the responsibility of the speaker, not the listener. If you are confused, then the speaker failed and may even have wanted to be ambiguous and is mischievous. So your confusion means it’s a failure of intention, communication or both. It’s theirs to fix.
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ted (not lasso)
@ted
ah, okay that’s fair and i agree that being clear is much preferred to being ambiguous. i think where we differ slightly is i fall in the camp of both speaker and listener are responsible for finding mutual understanding (not even agreement, but understanding). this approach has worked well in relationships for me.
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Pete Horne
@horneps
I agree with that, of course. But as speaker I can only be responsible for what I do and not what I hope of the other person. So I tend to talk and think that way as that is what I can control - myself.
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