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@itsbasil
i love this place but it’s not getting any better. i talk to four or five builders every single day, and over the past few weeks, the tides have started to turn. almost everyone i’ve spoken to who’s trying to build a real, scalable product with the intention of surviving across cycles is seriously questioning the direction of base & exploring alternatives. it’s heartbreaking. nobody — not a single person i’ve spoken to — wants creator coins. not one. the only people building in that vertical are the ones trying to fix the very problems they created. we’re perpetually pushing ten people on zora all with deep coinbase relationships. what does this have to do with base blockchain? half of them aren’t even builders & more than half of them won’t be here in a year. can we be honest about that? it’s not even because they’re bad ideas, but because they launched on a creator coin launchpad that makes zero sense. are they creator coins? are these projects? why is there a trading competition? none of this makes sense. why are we forcing a square peg into a round hole just to sustain a broken narrative that doesn’t make sense? do you know what builders really want? they want a faster chain. they want gas stability & sponsorships. they want $10k checks. they want to build on YOUR blockchain, not build around it, not forced into an app chain or elsewhere. you ARE the blockchain. build the blockchain & support the folks building on it. that’s all they want. that is your only job. instead, we’re throwing invalidated shit at the wall — doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on failing, directionless projects while real, multi-person teams with momentum & traction get ignored. we hide behind greed, ignorance & inertia, pretending not to see what’s happening right in front of us. talk to the people. this isn’t good. they are not happy. they are leaving. you think i’m loud for clout on a 100 person network? i am loud because these builders are my friends; because i am building with them. i’m loud because they don’t care to be: they are ready to throw in the gloves. we’ve learned nothing from the lessons that came before — from friend tech, from virtuals, from zora x5, from farcaster, from tba, from crypto itself over the last eight years — why are we ignoring all of it? why? do we really not see this? again? for the nth time? this only goes ONE way. please, can we be real? farcaster tried to build for creators for THREE years & got NOWHERE. what about lens? what about every single attempt before? what about the last 5 zora models? cmon, man… these are people’s livelihoods; these builders have families, children, spouses. they quit their jobs to build on YOUR chain; to strengthen YOUR network, to make YOU money. why are we doing this? and now, we’re about to push another unvalidated model as if Jesus came down from the heavens & wrote the code himself — one that lets founders dump FIFTY PRECENT of their token on their holders, with zero connection to fundamentals, revenue, product, or users. just another attention game, another cycle of manipulation… zero validation, yet we’re rolling it out across multiple pads, multiple teams, as THE model that will feed the hungry, pushing it top-down. come on. we laughed at binance for asking 8% for a listing. the whole base community joined in: “how absurd! we don’t want the largest exchange in the world dumping on us!” and yet here we are, pushing creator coins with fifty percent insider ownership whose ENTIRE purpose is to be dumped on their own communities… launchpads with fifty percent insider ownership whose ENTIRE purpose is to be dumped on their own communities… it’s just sad. genuinely sad; and it’s painful to hear the same thing, every day, from people who’ve been here for years. i just don’t get it anymore.
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Jesse Pollak
@jesse.base.eth
1. i've talked to 100+ creators who like/love their creator coins. it's a powerful model for monetization and community building. just like app coins! coins are good. 2. i think it's good that creators own 50% of their coin (and that it safely vests over a 5 year period). open to any and all feedback on how you think that model could work better. 3. supporting creators is not our only investment — we are massively invested in builders and have been since day one. that's why we are allocating tons of our energy to running base batches (basebatches.xyz) and so many other programs that support builders. 4. i agree attention right now can feel zero sum — that us talking about creator coins means that other things don't get air — but i also believe that comes from the fact that as a space, we aren't growing right now. that's the problem. how do we solve it? by taking more quality shots on goal that can credibly bring consumers onchain. that's my primary focus. thank you for all the feedback. i am always listening, learning, and trying to do better. day one.
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@samuellhuber.eth
re base batches: Simple question. If it's so important and so much energy goes into it. then why can't one get information about it when we are asked to organize workshops and "get ready"???? Why is the only time reliable information comes literally the start day at midnight US time? Why can't we properly prepare workshops, sessions and work with our partners? I mentor the IRL sessions in Aachen Germany, Frankfurt Germany and St. Gallen right now while being on call for tech support in Vienna & Munich. We have 1-2 weeks max to get full IRL events coordinated and promoted. We made it work because we prepared without information for 6 weeks before that!!! Doesn't screem like "allocating tons of energy" the way I've come to appreciate from Base before. I've voiced these concernes and feedback weeks before, ahead of launch and in person at basecamp. All with "we're working on it" as response. imo actions >>>> words. I love base batches, bringing literally new folks to base and seeing what everyone builds. Though seeing it as showcase for how base can support builders when the ones building base batches can't get information seems a bit odd? We had the SAME struggles with base batches 001 and it got worse :(( webpage for base batches was the 001 version literally even through base camp announcement of start times for base batches 002. Like how can this be tons of energy if the big thins like the literal landing page isn't even set until day of launch? if the information we are thought to run workshops with changes more then autumn weather here in Germany. Would love base batches 003 to be better and am looking forward to tomorrow, where i'll continue mentoring the base batches event in switzerland that we are running right now with 10 teams and ~30 builders. -- heading to sleep now, but thought being clear in feedback may be helpful. LFB 🫡
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Jesse Pollak
@jesse.base.eth
good feedback - work to do!
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Samuel ツ
@samuellhuber.eth
And please don’t get me wrong I love that base batches exists. We wouldn’t be able to rally and jumpstart the local ecosystem easily without running workshops and aligning folks under a common banner. Using base batches works well for that. Having tracks and goals of what to develop and criteria really helps answer the question of „what to build“ and allows me to focus on that area in mentoring in guidance at the in person hackathons/workshops. So absolutely I’d rather run another sprint to make it happen then not having base batches or a program like it. + the funnel from base batches to incubase and further is clearly set for anyone wanting to make the base batches idea a business and to keep changing the world with it. Which we can articulate to builders and not only explain but show with samples like noice what’s possible to do from base batches🥳 - sent on my way back to the currently running IRL event with incredible 10 teams from all over Switzerland🫡 LFB
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@jesse.base.eth
you're killing it samuel! and we are so grateful to be building with you.
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