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let's talk about depression.

how does it express in you? how are you feeling right now? if the words "fine and you?" didn't exist as a possibility for answering that question, and you had a space where to actually vomit what you have inside with someone reading it and caring about you.

what would you say?

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Depression is a function of boredom, which in turn is a function of abundance and wealth.

It exists, but I have never been feeling down/depressed when I didn't have the time to feel like it.

Going to Uganda, Africa there is no depression. There is making moves to survive and emotions, but no perma state of depression

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i appreciate you for that.

it's tough, but being open to learn & process it is key. i’ve seen skeptical friends downplaying their own feelings, staying busy, to later on seeing those emotions build up & become even more overwhelming.

it’s unfortunately still a taboo

if there's anything we can do to support, talk or other let me and the wider community here know. Lots of amazing conversation threads under the post.

so many more/other layers to this. imagine you're feeling your best, life & relationship are great, you're working on something you love, things are just flowing. mind is busy.

then a negative, intrusive thought shows up. you didn't even know such a thing existed. your reality turns upside down. 

it's been 3 years.

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I don't know what type of bullying you passed by (and I hope you're ok) but you need to understand that some traumas are not easy to share. Abuse, violence, etc. A lot of times this happens inside the family. It is way more common than you think. 
A very nice series that explains this in a nice way is 13 Reasons Why.

> This will consume you and make you sick.

if you let it yes, if you don't have anyone to share with professional help exists. Hopefully family too. 

my way of dealing with bullying has been to let it drive me, not consume me.

This is one type of depression and yes if you don't have stuff to do, it will arise. 
However, depression is way more complex than that. It could arise if you have suffered from any type of trauma/bullying in any space (home, school, work) and don't have anyone to share. This will consume you and make you sick.

Not a doctor, but a student of depression 

Depression covers a much wider range of symptoms than just “sad on the couch” and varies a lot w person, their context, and their culture

Just cuz it’s diff doesn’t mean it’s not real

(cool oldish study below)

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That’s my read of it

I managed a lot of training events in the army and keeping tabs on mental health is an absolutely crucial instructor duty

The amount of kids that speedran

thriving -> weirdly quiet -> complete fucking mess (sometimes total shutdown, sometimes somatic-y like mentioned etc) was surprisingly high

dang looked up somatic symptoms and thats crazy "Somatic symptom disorder is diagnosed when a person has a significant focus on physical symptoms, such as pain, weakness or shortness of breath"

So you don't see these, when you're there because they are physically impacted?

Not a doctor, but a student of depression 

Depression covers a much wider range of symptoms than just “sad on the couch” and varies a lot w person, their context, and their culture

Just cuz it’s diff doesn’t mean it’s not real

(cool oldish study below)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4109689/

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if one has a driver then you obviously have bad days and even down days, though you stand back up.

Current 2024 western civilization doesn't have a surivival driver so you need other ones. Thats why "passion" is such a big concept here.

It's mainly hiding the underlying humans need to feel useful -> the drive

> depression is a function of many more things that varies per person.

what veries per person is what drives you. 

to me depression is a lack of drive and giving in to the loop of feeling sorry for oneself -> feeling more sorry -> can't do anything -> stuck

drive in whatever way and survival is the easiest driver /1

The average African doesn't believe in depression. Some years ago, ignorant me would have said it was a western problem. And yes, the default African mind is primed to think more about survival, which somehow keeps you going. 

But I think, depression is a function of many more things that varies per person.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9584512/#:~:text=Almost%20one%20in%20three%20individuals,across%20the%20country%20are%20recommended.

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then it seems I have talked to 2/3 of the population only :O 

you certainly do not feel 1/3 is depressed when walking around the street talking to people

"Almost one in three individuals in Uganda has depression, with the refugee population being disproportionately affected. Targeted models for depression screening and management across various populations across the country are recommended."