funny how -woke- got such a bad rep lately,

what's the alternative tho? Being a sleep sheep. 

Ready to march to slaughter when asked, no questions asked.

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Considering how woke would appear it would appear the alternative is racist lmfao

Extreme anything is bad... The pendulum is swinging to the other side

Hopefully eventually it will get closer to a middle ground

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need middle ground like when Barack was president.. but take that statement with the grain of salt because I was also a child and didn't know politics 😭

Historically a far right government movement has ever been stopped by neo liberalism or any other "middle ground" ideology 

And like again the pendulum didn't swing to the left, neo liberal capitalists used identity politics to attack populist worker movements

The same way that right wing capitalists have used race baiting to break up populist worker movements.

It's all same side of the coin bby

But again there wasn't a swing to one direction, liberals are center right/left depending on the individual, but liberals aren't left.

Also 62% of Americans belive in nationalized health care(https://truthout.org/articles/poll-support-for-government-ensured-health-coverage-at-nearly-2-decade-high/)

63 support free college (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/08/11/democrats-overwhelmingly-favor-free-college-tuition-while-republicans-are-divided-by-age-education/ ) 

 60% support a higher minimum wage (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/04/22/most-americans-support-a-15-federal-minimum-wage)

57% of Americans think billionaires area taxed to little( all though some polls I've seen up to 70 plus support) 
https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/43956-most-americans-support-raising-taxes-billionaires

Not sure what is so extreme about this or why you think there's not widespread support

That’s fair—those numbers do show a lot of agreement on certain issues. I think where the disconnect happens is less about the policies themselves and more about how they’re framed and implemented. Just because a majority supports an idea doesn’t mean there’s a clear, unified path to making it happen, especially when powerful interests on all sides manipulate the conversation.

When I mentioned the pendulum swinging, I wasn’t just talking about policy but also cultural and political dynamics. The way people engage in discourse has become more polarized, and that’s what concerns me. If we can’t have reasonable discussions without everything turning into an ideological battleground, progress gets harder.

At the end of the day, I think most people want practical solutions that improve their lives, not just endless debates about left vs. right. I just wish there were more spaces where people could actually work through differences instead of being forced into political camps.

Yeah, I hear you. I think a lot of people—probably most—aren’t fully on board with either extreme. There’s definitely a pattern of powerful interests using division to keep people distracted from bigger systemic issues. And history shows that when the pendulum swings too hard in one direction, there’s always a reaction in the other.

But I don’t think the answer is to just pick a team and ride or die for it. The world is too complex for that. People are frustrated, and rightfully so, but I’d rather focus on practical solutions that bring people together instead of feeding into more division. At the end of the day, most of us just want a fair shot at a good life without getting caught in the crossfire of political games.