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Jay Brower (jaymothy.eth)
@jayb
things i learned building Baseflip 1. VRF is slow (10-15s latency). Huge opportunity for faster VRF. Realtime gaming needs it. 2. MiniApps play well with Github Pages + custom domain. 3. The gap from "web app" to "mini app" is small! https://warpcast.com/miniapps/n-S6EnhiPd9y/baseflip
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@owl
Which VRF are you using?
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Jay Brower (jaymothy.eth)
@jayb
Gelato VRF. Also tested Chainlink
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Hoot 🎩
@owl
Cool, yeah VRF is always a bit slow because of request and response model, block confirmation time and other factors. We have a service at https://anyrand.com/ I don’t want to claim that it’s any faster but maybe you want to check it out! You could also have the user fulfill their own randomness by posting the fulfillment themself with our implementation
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Jay Brower (jaymothy.eth)
@jayb
interested in this -- what is the latency you guys see to generate a word or two of randomness?
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Hoot 🎩
@owl
We’re using drand as the source of entropy so it’s block confirmation time + waiting for next drand round (in total maybe 3s) + indexing + fulfillment tx confirmation so in best case ~5s but usually a bit slower. But you know the randomness after 3s or so and can show it optimistically in frontend
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Jay Brower (jaymothy.eth)
@jayb
yeah chain conf times + event propagation times totally destroy these systems we need faster chains and faster events
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Hoot 🎩
@owl
Base flash blocks will give you preconf after 500ms or so so it does get faster. Other option would be to send a notif off chain so you can prepare the response and also show the result in FE faster
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Jay Brower (jaymothy.eth)
@jayb
just tried it, the preconf doesn't help event propagation speed. you're still staring at your screen waiting for an RPC event for 1+ seconds
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