I haven't listened to the Thiel interview yet but one thing I did find striking is the truly bizarre colour grading. you can see the original on the left and my 2-second correction on the right.

you would be hard-pressed to grade this footage in a less flattering way, almost as if your explicit goal was to make the subjects look alien. blue casts are a non-starter for skin tones.

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that collar looks pretty unflattering in any light