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Just caught up on the tipping meta “drama.” Quick recap + some thoughts: Recap: Jacek (founder of $DEGEN) voiced frustration about new tipping apps on Farcaster not defaulting to DEGEN. He hinted that anything using USDC for payments should maybe rethink that too, but that’s a separate thread. Most replies weren’t pushing back on the what, just the how he said it. That sparked a broader convo around tipping as a distribution model, a microtransaction use case, etc. Some people love it. Some don’t. My take: Devs default to USDC or spin up their own token because both offer better upside. USDC = sustainable revenue Own token = fundraising rocket fuel Personally, I’ve never really vibed with tipping. DEGEN worked because it was free. Spending my money just to “like” something ain't it for me. Same mentality goes for Zora, Rodeo, etc., which is why I'm hardly even a casual user there. It's not that I’m stingy (maybe I am). I’ve dropped a few hundred tipping friends on Farcaster but it still feels weird. Like Tipping Tuesday is some ritual I feel socially obligated to participate in. I’ve never subbed to a Patreon. Never paid for a Substack. Lived off uTorrent for years. I’m a child of the open internet. Free by nature, cheap by design. That said, tipping isn’t inherently bad; quite the contrary. It’s cool that people want to support creators. But like anything with money involved, it invites gaming, farming, clout chasing, the works. But that’s just part of the deal. Every system can be gamed. Final thought: Do whatever you want with your money. I truly do not care.
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Who pays for the creation of software, content, media?
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Patrons (in one sense or another). Simple terms: I go to a concert and buy a ticket. Some of that money goes to the band (not a lot). Trad Tech terms: users get farmed for data which is sold to advertisers who fuel the platform’s continued development Streaming: platform shares farmed ad rev with top 0.01% of creators who produce S-tier content Web3 Terms: users pay each other for mid content? Idk… doesn’t seem super sustainable. FC leaderboard is closest to what I imagine works long term assuming a sustainable flywheel of revenue is available to feed back into it. How do you see it?
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Sorry should have clarified I meant for the torrent maxing comment. As a former pirate, I do question my own ethics of it. Someone eventually has to pay but dunno who. On content, I think tipping is benign to fine. Same for leaderboard - think there’s a better rep system to define value in the network but I don’t have a solution.
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Ah yeah I felt bad about it as I got older as well. I think that’s probably why most of us stopped once we could afford the media we wanted. But it taught me so much about P2P networking and probably Is a big reason I got into crypto so quickly lol
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