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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
People who would not be interested in living in this: What would be a sufficiently moderate version of the concept that you *would* be willing to live in it?
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Bryan Johnson
@bryanjohnson
btw, the Daily Mail made up the bit on pizza and donuts to sensationalize the headline. I never said anything of the sort. The Don’t Die Network State will meet people where they’re at and journey together.
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Sean Brennan
@seanwbren
Have you proposed how to track when people are following the new social norms? An AI attestor could take in various data points (onchain txs, photos, web2 api calls, etc) and attest to some fact. For network cities that could be user-shared positive actions(🎁) or police-your-neighbor negative actions (slashed ❌)
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Ivy
@ivy
if only cults throughout history had known they wouldn’t have so many problems if they had rebranded as network states
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Sean Brennan
@seanwbren
everything is a cult! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFBKwo2HSU @meltem network cities with decentralized AI attestators could fail, or could be weird and dystopian, but likely less dystopian than state-political AI judges more details in this thread: https://x.com/seanwbren/status/1770112413158813809?s=20
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Ivy
@ivy
it completely overlooks things like whisper networks, and having recently been subject to some cult-like dynamics from a network state i can say that in practice it doesn't work for anything but the self-preservation of the network state
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Sean Brennan
@seanwbren
what I'm building is not working at all yet, not released. There's long periods of dao "clinical trials" ahead, starting with a testbed of less-impactful attestations around posting merch and memes on social media
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Ivy
@ivy
this isn't going to be solved by technology! ie women are often ostracized for reporting sexual violence which is partially why whisper networks are a thing
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Sean Brennan
@seanwbren
In your scenario, taking my idea to a far-off possibility, if the involved people had financial stake in the network city, then you would privately present your evidence to the AI attestor, which would come to come to a decision, and the guilty would be ostracized socially and slashed financially
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