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@evangreenberg
I don’t know how many Marxist/Dem Socialists we have on FC, but there’s a convo I want to have (rather in person but): It’s presented by Bernie/Zoran/etc that there needs to be zero billionaires because their wealth should be redistributed. I heard someone else say “what if everyone was a billionaire?” I don’t think either are going to happen exactly (no billionaires vs all billionaires), but the decision sets if you make one or the other as the GOAL is fascinating, and I’d love to have that convo with people of many different viewpoints!
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What defines everyone? Everyone as in your social circle? Reproducing the problem Everyone as in the entire world? One billion becomes the same as 0 now Both outcomes : no change from current reality
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@evangreenberg
What if technology brings down costs so low that having “a billion” really doesn’t do that much more that not having “a billion.” This is literal in a sense but not literal in another sense. It’s a question of whether Capitalism or Marxism brings us to the changed state. Open your mind to what’s possible!
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Regardless of what brings us to that state - if everyone has “a billion” it is the same as what we have now with people saying they “have nothing”
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@evangreenberg
I think people complain now because they get a paycheck and it’s gone before they know it, they can’t save, and they can’t afford to buy a house, etc. What if that all went away because cost of evening came down? I don’t think people would say they “have nothing”
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I think this is a difficult situation because - How would the price of everything come down without there being a decrease in fiat in circulation? Likewise How would the price of everything stay the same while the circulation of fiat increases ?
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I’ve heard that if we had a cheap, unlimited, abundant energy source, it wouldn’t be hard to
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