Evan
@evangreenberg
I don’t know how many Marxist/Dem Socialists we have on FC, but there’s a convo I want to have (rather in person but): It’s presented by Bernie/Zoran/etc that there needs to be zero billionaires because their wealth should be redistributed. I heard someone else say “what if everyone was a billionaire?” I don’t think either are going to happen exactly (no billionaires vs all billionaires), but the decision sets if you make one or the other as the GOAL is fascinating, and I’d love to have that convo with people of many different viewpoints!
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Steve Pederzani
@pederzani
Hard not to disagree with my bias as someone on the poor people side of the trolley here. Hard to imagine the ramifications on the ecosystem above that actually manages the things we operate in life. Still feel it’d be more equitable overall the same way search engines and natural language machine learning models level the playing field of a global general knowledge pool anyone really can tap into. Why can’t money work *closer* to that way too, not even fully? Enough that this does to happen to people that try, research, and follow instructions sincerely: https://www.businessinsider.com/meet-attorney-347k-student-loan-debt-no-job-biden-forgiveness-2022-7
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Evan
@evangreenberg
But what if we did something like find abundant cheap energy that made everyone rich and comfortable. Is that better than redistributing the current situation?
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Steve Pederzani
@pederzani
Depends on the means- is the sacrifice of the lower class worth the result, and do the decision-makers understand thee sacrifice being forced by those of lesser means in order to support the ones purported to solve crises? Often times no. A lot of my Farcaster posts will often tout things about the "plastics" from NYC and LA on this app who are very out of touch with "common people," and that's where the reasoning should be done. Among the majority of common people without the resources or power. If the rich only help the poor get rich the way the rich think you get rich, then every other idea to success flatlines like how the content creativity curve "narrows" over AI's incorporation into creative and marketing content seen online. A bit speculative on my part but not out of left field with my thoughts, I hope. lol
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Steve Pederzani
@pederzani
I guess TLDR, if cheap energy made everyone rich who actually lost and for how long in order for us to get there and were they paid back break-even or gainfully? Can you even measure a year in the life? ♪
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Evan
@evangreenberg
But what’s the alternative? And who is losing in that?
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Steve Pederzani
@pederzani
Redistribute wealth means a higher bottom bar for what it means to improve a society — and overall, I think that’s better for society. Billionaire ideas aren’t novel they’re just well financed. Right now someone could drop $400k in my wallet, tell me to pay off my MOHELA, and I’d likely treat them like a God for the rest of my life, meaning many of my decisions as a human will be guided by that gesture. This would lead me to extreme altruism in kind to simply help raise the quality of life freely for the others around me. Or, I could earn it or receive it on my own later on, and likely take a different path about the value of strife in contributing to an economic system as an individual. This is my current state where most my altruism now is calculated to lead somewhere. If I donate to charity it has to be purposed: I support local programs more than I reach outside my own city. Or maybe that’s just a part of my own humanity and I’m unique against the status quo on this. Either way, more fodder for the yap pool and social graph to consume. 😛 (And hopefully some of the good yap you were hoping for.)
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