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EulerLagrangodamus
@eulerlagrange
Govt owned grocery stores is a terrible idea. I think what they’re looking for is cooperatives.
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Purp🇵🇸
@purp
How so? Why should New York City pay Billions of dollars in subsidies to corporations that pay poverty wages? Why shouldn't that money instead be used to subsidize at cost groceries?
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EulerLagrangodamus
@eulerlagrange
Because there is a history of govts doing this and it never ends well
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Purp🇵🇸
@purp
Theres a long history of governments subsidizing losses for corporations, and it never ends well Theres a long history of raising police funding and not stopping crime, and it never ends well Theres a long history of lowering taxes on the rich, and it never ends well How come all these are acceptable but subsidizing losses on public grocery stores is a bridge to far
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EulerLagrangodamus
@eulerlagrange
You’re hitting me with a what about-ism. I’m not really interested in debating moral superiority here, but i’m fame if you wanna discuss how more people can be fed. I’m not advocating for subsidies here. I’m just pointing out that the history of govts trying to force an outcome for such an enterprise is not good. I really doubt NYC is subsidizing grocery stores right now. More likely they give out benefits that look like SNAP. SNAP has the benefit of preserving the benefits of the free market (not saying free market is all good, but they do have good properties in healthy markets). If the mayor instead said NYC will expand SNAP (or NYC equiv), and get more grocery stores to accept it, then you’d get more food to people with less money spent. The government is not good at running small businesses.
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EulerLagrangodamus
@eulerlagrange
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2020/05/22/859853877/food-banks-get-the-love-but-snap-does-more-to-fight-hunger
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EulerLagrangodamus
@eulerlagrange
Curious what our beloved /opacity Marxist @cryptokibbutznik.eth thinks. also @tbsocialist
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Purp🇵🇸
@purp
Yes and? Hes not running a food bank, hes taking money already allocated for subsidizing corporate expansion, using publically owned buildings/subsidizing rent, subsidizing other costs of operations, buying wholesale, to create 5 super markets that will sell goods at cost. Kroger grossed 23.8% last year, how much more would they of netted if rent, utilities and taxes were subsidized? Bet it would be more than the 1.7% they netted before, how much further would snap go, if products were 20-25% less?
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