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Stephan
@stephancill
i give farcaster a hard time because i'm dissatisfied with the status quo of online social and feel like we have a genuine opportunity to do things differently this is why it frustrates me when farcaster leans into the same things that make traditional online social shitty thinking about it more i realized i don't actually know what farcaster is trying to achieve. does it want to solve fair distribution for creators? does it want to solve deplatforming and censorship? does it want to be a mini app platform? does it want to be a place where people make genuine connections? does it want to be a place people go for entertainment? does it want to be a composable social graph? does it want to be an app for people to discover crypto apps? i genuinely have no idea. this vacuum of direction invites people to shape their own narratives about farcaster and leads to everyone being disappointed when decisions are made that don't align with their idea of what it should be
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
1 billion plus people using the protocol every day. We get there by figuring out how to grow retained daily active users sustainably. As users grow, developers have increased incentive to build new apps and services. Creating more options of users. Eventually, you get to a flywheel. Not close to that yet. Need to figure out what will grow retained daily active users. All of the other properties you cite are downstream of user growth in terms of importance. Reasonable to argue that we could “rug” the promise, but we’ve been clear for last 5 years we view success as building a successful protocol.
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links 🏴
@links
There are a billion people using Twitter so is your goal to be the same as Twitter but you are the oligarch instead of Elon? I don’t think that’s your goal but I’ll admin it’s been a fear of mine. All this to say that while I appreciate you need scale to succeed, scale with the same values as tradSocial doesn’t count as success for a lot of us here. It’s clear you’re aiming to do some things differently, and I know there are reasons not to strongly align with specific problems this early. But as a user, when you only talk about growth, there’s nothing different from existing social networks and that’s not what I want.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
How many independent clients does Twitter have? The protocol is live and decentralized today. Anyone can choose Farcaster app, Base or another client. Or build their own client.
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@links
So client diversity is the problem you aimed to solve? And now that it’s solved we just need growth to cement the protocol? These are genuine questions, please read them in the most genuine internal voice.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Primary problem to solve is user growth. Unsolved. Has been for the case since the beginning. Order of magnitude harder problem than anything else. Necessary but not sufficient problem is make sure the underlying protocol works and is permissionless. Mostly solved. That’s been the case for a while. Base integrating is a good sign of that.
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links 🏴
@links
Can I ask why building a permissionless protocol was important to you?
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