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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
People who are interested in living in a long-term network state node (so, permanent location, not popup), what are some properties that you would like such a node to have?
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Catch0x22 (2025 variant)
@catch0x22.eth
ability to defend from government intrusion
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Kieran Daniels
@kdaniels.eth
You cannot defend a nation without an army.
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ionspired
@ionspired
thats the whole point of the comment as I see. I spent some time on thinking through the tactics on how to achieve this feature before I found out about the network state. what I came up with is development of kinda soft defense tech, but the ambition must remain in stealth mode haha if you want it to get somewhere
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Catch0x22 (2025 variant)
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unironically, the answer is many different solutions. starting from legal precedence at least shows good faith the goal should be to lead with love so that many network states rise. it is the only way forward
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ionspired
@ionspired
legal precedence is the preroragative of the forces you would defend from though. you have your own system of law and law enforcement in such case
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Catch0x22 (2025 variant)
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no one ever gets to that point without clashing with other powers iwo the world would be better if this only happened on smaller scales over things like women or competition, not limited resources
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Kieran Daniels
@kdaniels.eth
This is all wonderful in theory and I agree this is my personal want as well Doesn’t stop a country with cruise missiles from taking all your shit overnight. This is the same argument against personal gun ownership, we are post war children and we haven’t had our shit taken from us yet in this era. If you can protect your country and your personal belongings from the violence that controls the world, then you actually don’t own your country or any of your belongings, you’re just the custodian until someone with a a bomb or gun comes along.
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ionspired
@ionspired
totally agree, but as of today, the world is far from ready to handle it peacefully i really did formulate a concept of creating a new “country” before i knew about network state hehe, and inspired one oligarch to start building a prototype version of it in Indonesia: Nuanu. according to my idea it was basically an island evolving around a progressive university rotating students from all countries, primarily civil servants upgrading the tech of governance all over the world and also seeding the new ideology so that the island effectively becomes a network country with no territory. function in this mode up until we get the black swan defense technology to be able to flippen the way the bordered world today exists
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