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@vitalik.eth represents the rare kind of stewardship that Ethereum needs—someone deeply committed to its core values. However, the future of this movement isn’t just in his hands; it’s in all of ours. We must also push forward with the same integrity, ensuring Ethereum remains free from capture and manipulation. While we need to be cautious of wolves in sheep's clothing, we should remain optimistic that there are many who recognize that Ethereum represents something far greater than any individual, something that transcends our limited time on this earth. It’s up to ALL of us to safeguard and nurture that vision as Vitalik has done over all these years

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does ethereum (i.e. EF, satellite orgs) not have organizational measures to ensure they're safeguarded against "wolves in sheep's clothing" or is this just a general cautionary statement?

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I think the tech in itself must remain resilient and having diverse client teams is one such way to do that

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i believe you're applying diverse to client, rather than to teams, so my response is in line with this interpretation: bitcoin's power vacuum resulted in miners forking from core and essentially voting on change by accepting forks, something that has lead to economically-incentivized decisions over adherence to protocol principles (e.g. BRC-20s, ordinals, runes) ethereum is largely committee driven, and it feels like the "diversity" of clients is more like the practice in flight systems, where multiple redundant system implementations exist and divergence is detected through collective evaluation. to my understanding, very few actually simultaneously run different consensus clients for the _same_ beacon chain block/validator, same with execution client, but rather just the collective quantity of validators and block proposers out there are doing so. this principle is great for detecting flaws and handling them gracefully, but does incur the cost of nimbleness, 1/2

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especially as unlike the "redundant implementation" approach in flight systems where the direction and requirements are top down, it requires social consensus on those implementations being adopted and activated at an agreed time. systems that work under this principle have a dangerous possibility that they are more susceptible to the tactics of the infamous field sabotage manual – do teams helping client diversity happen have such organizational barriers to prevent these tactics? 2/2

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gd, every time I see you reply to a cast like this, I respect you more.

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