What does devops mean to you?

1)  breaking down the silo between development and operations and merging teams so that dev and ops work together under the same manager 

2) you build it, you run it - the merging of job functions so dev and ops which used to be 2 people becomes 1

Or something entirely different :)

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Thanks for answering. I think one of my most favorite and least favorite thing about DevOps is it means something different to everyone. 

Most favorite because that’s kind of the spirit of DevOps- recognizing that things can be messy and instead of getting dogmatic about anything, just go talk to someone often solves the problem 😁

The reason I asked this question is I saw someone post about how DevOps has always been about increasing communication and collaboration.  At some point along the way I somehow lost the thread and started thinking about DevOps in the “you build it you run it” mode of merging roles instead of just breaking down silos, and I really appreciated being forced to remember it’s true spirit 

Anyway, have I mentioned how much I love DevOps? 😁

to me it’s the process of involving the people that are gonna run it earlier in the process so they get to help make the decisions vs being stuck with something

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That’s very typical in practice, and what the conventional “devops” teams have become.

When I’ve run teams, its always emerged as “the parts of building production software that AREN’T writing code (that handles business logic, at least)”. CI/CD pipelines, IaC, monitoring/logging, secret management, etc.

Seems a lot more narrow than the replies I’m reading but it’s how my teams have run.

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We were purer earlier lol. Btw we still do cfgmgmtcamp in Ghent (right after fosdem in Brussels). If you like to get into the weeds, I recommend both

No way! Good lore. The godfather of devops! I met Patrick at the DevOps Enterprise Summit (now called the Enterprise Tech Leadership Summit) in 2023. 
I love so much of the early DevOps movement.

Unite the process and technology with people. It’s a culture. 

I went to the first DevOps days in Ghent - suggest you read all the old work from Patrick DeBois. 

So definitely not two jobs becoming one, but we are moving away from people just being a systems administrator. Infrastructure as code, too, as a bonus. Your bash scripts become ansible playbooks for example.

Arguably managing k8s clusters and clouds are more complex than bare metal/vm’s. 

Think the technology will always evolve but the culture remains.

devops used to mean something, running the metal servers and vms and so’s and code in these.

now its all clouds so idk manage k8s clusters lol

Defintely second and call it Software Engineer. If you are maintaining production system, that is completely different title than DevOps. They call it SRE nowadays...

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DevOps is a mindset, far beyond just a skill set. It represents a culture of continuous improvement and enables rapid growth within teams.