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Mike | Abundance 🌟
@abundance
how does Farcaster's "sufficient decentralization" come into play in the daily experience of the average user? imagine you're fleeing web2 platforms bc you're tired of being controlled by a centralized entity that can — with the flip of switch — silence you, shadowban you, or make you otherwise virtually invisible You're told that Farcaster is different And then end up in the same exact situation as before
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Stephan
@stephancill
Farcaster is about as different as Facebook is to Twitter right now Which is material (in terms of leadership), but the underlying problem is yet to be solved until we have sufficient client (and algo) diversity I think many advocates know this but have faith in the farcaster team (and have a vested interest in the success of farcaster)
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Mike | Abundance 🌟
@abundance
I'm certainly looking forward to the algo diversity. somewhat concerned tho that instead of building "decentralization legos" the major clients will just use each other's "control legos" (algos & spam scores). I guess we'll see where we're headed soon enough
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Colin Charles
@bytebot
Web2 platforms when it comes to silencing and shadowbanning is a tad multifaceted, though here you’re silenced by a spam label. It is true that more client diversity will help, eg if you use recaster you’ll see a different set of followed. Firefly is the same, with a different set of criteria. Diversity exists and more will come, but there is one fear that there will be one client that generally rules them all. And there in lies one algorithm/spam score. People need to be told why they’re being classified as spam. Yes, ai will learn, but this is also about empathy to ensure we do better here. And criteria will change for sure.
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Mike | Abundance 🌟
@abundance
agree. in practice client diversity is only effective if other clients have a significant market share. if we end up with one or 2 clients dominating the ecosystem like we have with Chrome/Google today, we really don't achieve much progress towards decentralization
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Colin Charles
@bytebot
100% spot on. And while it helps grow the network (calling it Farcaster for the client, and the protocol, retiring the Warpcast name), it does bring things to be a little more confusing for other clients to grow. Back in the day, this is why when Red Hat Linux (RHL) wanted to do an enterprise/community split, we went with The Fedora Project and Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) - this ensured that while Red Hat was working on both, with Fedora being the base for RHEL, there was distinct branding. This allowed people to rebuild RHEL (e.g. CentOS) to offer a free variant as long as the trademarks were swapped.
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