Degen

This is one big reason why im using Farcaster less and less..

I’ve also been enjoying life off chain for a bit, i will forever be grateful for this place and i will never leave it

But the amount of “cult among the OGs” is ridiculous.. 

I was able to grow a lot on this platform and be influencial, even more than the OGs.. if we look at the numbers i was getting 10 times more interactions then people with 200k followers😂

And i think they didnt like that newcomers like me were able to steal their spotlight, simply with charisma, funny memes and art..

So they’ve built this system that @mvr is taking about, which it’s so obvious even blind people can see.

And dont even get me started on how they never truly accepted that $DEGEN is what made Farcaster what it is today.. 

Never cooperated with @jacek , never admited that $DEGEN is the actual native token of Farcaster..

They did work with Moxie tho, funny eh?

Farcaster feels split, the elite crowd (Coinbase mafia, VCs, Ivy grads) and the rest and the folks without products, clout, or notable affiliations. With Degen app, I want to build something more open and raw. It’ll feel spammy, sure, but that’s the tradeoff. Not trying to over-moderate or curate for elites.

@jacek I think the " it'll feel spammy, but that's okay" is a terrible take. 

Also, I have to hard disagree that farcaster is a Have versus the have-not ecosystem. There are countless users who are not in the OG status that have built themselves incredible followings, channels, and holdings.

I guess if you want to call it a have versus have not, that's fair, but frame it appropriately. The people who are thriving HAVE put in effort and work to get there. The others simply HAVE NOT.

To be clear, low effort, AI generated, or spam type posts do not classify as putting in effort. 

I have a significant Degen in holding in cold storage, but I've got to say, your takes lately aren't the @jacek that launched degen.

What's habs GC? happy to join and take a look.

Find me some good examples of user accounts, not service accounts, that are providing AI generated casts and/or replies that are worth a damn.  I'll wait. 

Go check dune to see how much garbage is being filtered, it's insane.  Straight hot dumpster fire garbage on an August afternoon.

Why not join the habs GC to see what some of degens largest holders have to say?  You're a token holder and don't even participate.  Ignoring the original base for people farming a couple dollars worth each month.

When $DEGEN was ripping, new Farcaster users auto-followed a curated list, some folks got huge followings just from that. Let’s not pretend it's all merit-based. Early Reddit didn’t overmoderate either, if people liked a post, it thrived. AI or not, good content rises. No need to curate everything like it’s an art gallery. Let the feed breathe.

While I’m concerned abo this part of your response that feels a bit like a generalization because it’s doesn’t seem fully genuine to say that that all other users who haven’t been able to thrive aren’t doing so because they haven’t put in the effort,

I can agree with the fact that this seems like a bit of a departure from the musings of the person who brought degen into this world.

@jacek ,  best I can say with respect to this is that you need to hold on to whatever conviction you have to move forward, but try to hold on to that conviction while not letting the naysayers, VCs, and others be a detrimental factor to this plan. 

I’m intrigued to see what happens, while I’m concerned about the direction that some of the comments are going. But that doesn’t mean I’m not optimistic.

I’m cautiously optimistic.  With a side of faith. 

Stay strong.  

I think all of this is a good conversation to have.

Day time Banker 🏦

Night Time: wannabe Philosopher

Posting my journey to grow mentally, emotionally, and be healthy.

True.  You’re right.

I just hate to generalize and say that anyone who didn’t create work, or anyone who didn’t build and app,  is extracting.

That is not to say that people are out there purely extracting.  

It seems like there are people who spend more time discussing “non crypto/onchain/blockchain” aspects of their lives, that could fall into the “have nots” side of things. 

It’s  an interesting balance.

I just feel that posting selfies, food pictures, AI responses, low effort replies, anything like that, no matter how much you do, it is not putting in effort. Now, there are places for all of that on farcaster, but if that's all you're posting, you're not likely to go anywhere. It's an incredible time that we're all going through right now, we have nearly an infinite amount of resources at our disposal. Create some artwork, Open up a coding agent and make something cool, provide to the community without any expectation of getting anything in return. That's the most important part, pure extractors get left behind.