"The consciousness in you and the consciousness in me, apparently two, really one, seek unity and that is love." 

Nisargadatta Maharaj

Portrait of Dominique
2019 / South Africa

Estonian documentary and fine art photographer



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Have u thought that the history of the Cristian God is bound to create humans in order to scape loneliness? And this God creates the woman (supposedly) because he thinks it is not good that the man be alone. And interestingly, this part is the only thing this God sees as NOT GOOD. Before this, this divinity looks to all things he made and tells him they are good. But not loneliness in the case of consciousness. It is not good that consciousness is alone. And supposedly, this God was alone before creating things. So even creation seems to be an act of consciousness to avoid the evil of being alone. Beautiful this interpretation, isn't it?

Philosopher, Artist, PhD Tenure Professor; Virtualia founder, Long Wei Ambassador, Nifty Island Game Creator. https://thephilosopher-eth.blogspot.com/

I interpret the myth of creation differently, also not ignoring the many major changes bible underwent for the sake of the politics. To me at its core form, the message and symbolism is pointing more to the belief of duality and  us only in this separation from the ONE having the experience of loneliness.

Oh, that is beautiful too. I like your interpretation. Let me just confirm if I understood ir correctly. The duality is given by our existence in separated from the one, and this separation is what causes loneliness? If we were the one, we would never have the experience of loneliness? Is that it u are saying?

Yes, it super makes sense. If you are the ONE, it only you exists, and you are everything. If this is the case, you are such a complete entity that suffering would not make any sense. If you are everything, and maybe the universe is your body and you are a deep consciousness from this body universe that can feel and be existence of everything in it, suffering would not be something really akin to that kind of unified consciousness. I imagine that if we suffer, it comes from the fact that we expect something that does not happen how we expect, or because we feel physical pain. I dont know if it makes sense to expect that this whole consciousness would feel pain because its "body" would happen in some way. Although the concept one is difficult, because sometimes it also means thatthis one is something with no parts, in a permenedian-zeno view.

This is very interesting: the one when becomes the dual cannot stay in "heaven". This maybe says something about the nature of duals too. We want to meet and be one, but we cant, so we suffer. At least one kind of suffering. What u think?

To be one leads us to suffering because of loneliness.
To be two leads us to suffering because the inability of being one.

Oh, if we were ONE, in fact, we would not able to have a distinction between body and consciousness. In this sense, it wouldnt be possible to experience anything. Would that be it?

If we were ONE we can’t experience anything. You see what I mean? But most importantly, I have been always pondering (I read so many spiritual books and asked wise people) - WHY DO WE SUFFER…

I couldn’t find answer until one day in my meditation I understood. Suffering is the only thing we are unable to experience in a state of ONE or WHOLE. When Adam and Eve gets kicked out of paradise because of Apple of knowledge, I think it’s this knowledge. To experience suffering which is only possible through separation from Infinite into Finite. 

I hope it makes sense. It’s too much to explain through such short text