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The Algo’s Just Not That Into You Something weird is happening on Farcaster, and it’s time we talk about it openly. This isn’t just “home feed doing home feed things.” It’s much deeper and more concerning. Some casts are skyrocketing with 10k+ views from accounts that have 1k followers. Meanwhile, longtime casters with 100k+ followers are seeing reach crater by 50%. The math doesn’t add up…unless something’s being boosted. We’re watching artificial amplification play out in real time and this experiment needs to end now before more trust is lost. The algorithm cares more about engagement quality than raw follower numbers. There are several Dune queries who show the most popular casters by the numbers, but they do NOT align with the Farcaster Leaderboard. We know that not everyone’s engagement is weighted equally, and most of us have come to begrudgingly accept this fact. The home and trending feed have always favored certain accounts, and as little as two engagements with those accounts can amplify a cast to trending. We see it and have come to terms with it. But recently, we’ve seen a new trend emerge: artificial algorithmic boosting…to levels never before seen on Farcaster…and we need to stop dancing around the subject and talk about it. A user with 1,000 followers might have a highly active niche audience, while someone with 250,000 might have a large but disengaged base…but we have Dune queries to show us how “active” each account’s followers have been over the last 7 and 30 days. Very large accounts (6-figure followings) tend to have about 50% of their followers be considered “active” under this metric (active=have casted, liked, or recasted). Newer accounts skew higher because many are only a few weeks old, so most of their followers are obviously active. If the algorithm is boosting based on more active followers, it could explain the great discrepancies we are seeing in reach, so we need to look deeper. A new tool has emerged that lets us look into the number of unique accounts that interacted with a user's content in the last 30 days, and the data is very telling. This data counts everyone on the protocol, not just those with good spam labels. If you think your engagement has gone down a lot over the past few weeks, you aren’t imagining it. Usually, if 2-3% of your followers interact with your casts, you are doing great. But what if most of the people who follow you never even see your casts in the latest version of the algorithm? Spoiler alert: they don’t. Let’s compare some of the biggest, most established accounts on the network to newer accounts who I believe are being artificially amplified. These accounts all have well over 100,000 followers each (even more on the protocol!), cast daily, and consistently engage back with the network. Their content and casting patterns have not changed noticeably over the last 30 days. The number of unique accounts they have reached in the last 30 days and how much their engagement is down is as follows: 15,400 (down 67%) 7,500 (down 49%) 1,500 (down 29%) 2,700 (down 36%) 6,500 (down 55%) 4,200 (down 54%) Now let’s compare this to one of the new accounts that I believe are being purposely placed into many users’ home feeds (note that these accounts have 1,000-3,000 followers). 10,500 The number of views on many of their casts are also between 10,000 and 18,000 views. Remember, the data above shows interactions, but even more people have seen these casts! A user with 1,000 followers getting seen by 10,000+ people requires external amplification. That reach doesn’t emerge organically. The algorithm chose to show them beyond their organic social graph. Observing a few examples of weird reach/follower ratios doesn’t necessarily prove systemic bias. Visibility is complex and can swing based on timing, interaction graphs, and reposts by top casters, but the math doesn’t add up without boosting. The people getting boosted didn’t necessarily ask to be. Now they’re targets of backlash; they are victims as well. Meanwhile, those who have not had this type of algorithmic boost feel invisible and demoralized, even if they’ve consistently added value to the community. It’s creating a toxic imbalance that erodes trust across the board. We can politely say “vibes are off” and tell people to just mute what they don’t want to see, but that’s not going to solve the issue at hand. This is deeper than engagement FOMO. We are watching something we’ve invested time into start to resemble the very platforms we came here to escape. The algorithm may be silent, but its choices are loud. If it is hand picking winners, the rest of us should stop pretending we’re playing the same game. Invest your time here accordingly.
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https://farcaster.quotient.social
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My theory (fully not backed up by any data, just anecdotal vibes, so take that accordingly) is that it's a combo of the boost they are giving to accounts in their first 30 days, not playing nicely with accounts that also get intros from big accounts that get them to the 1k following range quickly. So then the boost that was intended to be for accounts to build their reach is going bananas because they have that plus their organic reach.
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Thanks for bringing light to this. As a very small, older account, I've been feeling this myself in the past weeks. Engagement has definitely tanked for me. As you said, I'll choose whether I want to continue to spend my time here based on this artifice. Honestly it doesn't really make sense to me to keep putting effort into something so biased and hidden. Doesn't feel in the spirit of Farcaster at all IMHO... But honestly a lot of recent decisions by their team have flowered in that direction for me as well. Maybe just time to realise it's not what I thought it'd evolve to be and pick to spend my time accordingly (or not at all). Sad facts given how many friends I've made here. 🤷
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Feed transparency and customizability is (ironically, given the open data and modularity/interoperability) the one place Farcaster falls behind vis a vis Bluesky and X. More transparency is definitely needed. I do like what @v and team have done in terms of open-sourcing spam labels. Not expecting full transparency, but if X can open-source significant elements of its recommendation algorithm, I think a good start for Farcaster would be sharing more about how their algorithms work and disclose whether their policies allow for manual boosts. I don't know whether or not they do, but if they do, it should be disclosed. I also think that they should enable users to customize the base algorithm, leveraging reputation data from one of the (many) providers in the ecosystem.
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Interesting read and helps confirm some thoughts i had, but was unsure were valid. Thanks for sharing
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I honestly could care less about the ranking and engagement/getting noticed - but I know a lot of people on here do because their work/projects rely on it. That said, I have noticed a wild drop in engagement with some of my casts lately. Some of which I thought were for SURE bangers. Glad to know I'm still hilarious and cool and that it's just @dwr.eth fault.
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There's a lot of accounts talking about this algo now, which is a good thing I guess? Hope that also means there will be changes coming @jc4p casted some nice stats as well https://farcaster.xyz/jc4p/0xb239267d
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Thanks for shining a light on this. I haven’t wanted to say anything because I thought maybe it was just a bug or something, but there is one newer account that is at the top of my home feed EVERY. SINGLE. TIME I open this app. And I haven’t engaged with their casts in weeks. Nothing against them at all, just feels gross.
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Thanks for sharing! I’ve been much less active on here, in part because it felt something was off, and also because my home feed keeps showing me people I don’t follow with huge engagements. A mix of not resonating and also being demoralized
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"algo handpicking the winners" this is the issue that has been pointed out a million times here in the last 2 years. it remains unresolved because the team has not yet found any real solution other than handpicking the winners. remember auto-follow list? its the same game, hand tweaked 50 times simple as that 😁
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I didn't even know that new users get a boost to be more viewed, no wonder I see new users who share anything and immediately have hundreds of views and the more time passes quickly go up to thousands. It's a problem, I'm going to be a year in Farcaster, I have not had that momentum that they have had, in fact many of the publications that I do with so much dedication to educate and change perspectives are left in oblivion. I think finding a balance in this is complicated, because I know that the team is looking for new people to stay and it is easy for them to stay considering that they are coming in and they immediately position themselves on the board and earn hundreds of dollars. I hope it can be solved, everyone is being affected as I understand everything you have explained.
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Yes it’s weird. I also observed that a lot of comments I receive on my casts just don’t show up anywhere, not even in the moar comments section. tHE bROKEN aLGORITHM :)
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE READING YOUR /firstdraft POSTS!!! You genuinely just summed up everything we’ve been trying to yell about but brought in the data to prove it and I genuinely hope the team reads this. When V announced that new users would get an algo boost we were excited to see it come into play as this would allow for more users to be onboarded and not be left in the new acc no followers void, but the boost is so insane that they are now outperforming accs that have spent so much time building a following and community on this app and now seem like they are being sidelined Love all the new users the app is getting but what happens after 2-3 weeks when the new users boost wears off and they have an increased following and are barely getting half the engagements they used to in their first weeks on here. I really hope they tone it down a bit because it’s something that will lead to users making lots of alt accounts that still post valuable content so they rank higher on the leaderboard which is gaming!
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The Farcaster algorithm is corrupted and I’ve been very vocal about it Unfortunately, the Farcaster overlords don’t care about what OG accounts think and do whatever they think is best This platform is going downhill and will never scale beyond the crypto nerds using it
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already commented (excellent post!) but here's a little extra 3500 $tipn
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being this right has to be illegal haha well said
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Wild that we’re talking about decentralization while the algo plays kingmaker behind the curtain.
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For a while, I thought my feed was broken because it was “too decentralized” 😅 Now I realize… some folks were just pre-centralized all along 😂
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Is the elephant in the room a16z?
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