in other news: telegram was confirmed to work with russian intelligence agencies and openly sharing data with them by ANOTHER independent journalist agency

telegram does NOT use e2ee, and even when it does (in secret chats that no one uses) it attaches unencrypted device id to every message

tg is NOT secure

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That’s what you’d call an open secret. The real question is what’s the alternative? Most messengers and social platforms do the exact same thing. Everyone collects and shares data, with intelligence agencies, marketers, or anyone who can compel or pay for it.
The problem runs much deeper than just Telegram.
Data and people are the new oil.

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imessage and meta messenger aren't opensource so you can't be sure they don't just dump a copy of your messages to after decrypting them

matrix has fragile crypto and unencrypted parts

so it's basically just signal;

i hope they will add registration without phone number at some point

signal, matrix, even imessages and messenger from meta have e2ee