greg
@gregfromstl
People hate on Elon for his refusal to use LiDAR but constraints breed innovation and his first principles thinking on it IS correct: Humans can drive without LiDAR, so AI should be able to too if its good enough.
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nomygod
@nomygod.eth
10 years and 50+ fatalities later i'm going with waymo on this one we don't need a billion pretty good driving cars we need a million perfect driving cars etc like his vision for this self driving utopia of people idk renting their teslas out as taxis is dumb. it sounds ok till you get into the details imo
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greg
@gregfromstl
Teslas have gotten pretty good and don’t need to spend 6 months mapping a city before they drive. They also dont need remote operators. If you consider those I don’t think the gap is as wide as it seems. And if tesla’s unit economics are better day 1 they can scale much faster
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nomygod
@nomygod.eth
waymo's literally drive next to me TODAY with no backup drivers. elon promised teslas would be fully auto taxis by 2018. im not saying they aren't useful or whatever but they aren't in the same league. like how many times do you need to map phoenix the city
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greg
@gregfromstl
Yes I ride in a waymo almost daily, but they have remote operators and are not driving themselves 100% of the time. You only need to map a city once but that puts a 6 month delay on rolling out to every new city. If teslas get good enough in time, they will be able to scale faster. That said, tech moves between companies quite fast so whatever advancements Tesla comes up with waymo will get shortly after. I dont know who will win but waymo isn’t the guaranteed winner because they were first to market (excluding cruise)
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