what i'd do if i was @igoryuzo.eth building /griv 

> allow submissions exclusively by posting on /griv 
> launch a clanker, vault 30% (30B) + dev buy 20% (20B) 
> on each successful submission, give the user 1M $griv 
> make users compete by staking 1M $griv each
> make a pool of 1B $griv. the most consistent mf wins it all. 
> do a unique comp/pool for each sport 
> optimise for 90% retention of participants (ie regular posting) 
> use the @bracky playbook wrt to giving free money initially 
> gain mindshare by landing up on the feed *a lot more* 
> win all of FC x fitness cult

What is the value of having thousands of lower-quality users vs hundreds of high-quality users?

Demand is not an issue, I have 430 DMs from people wanting to join Griv. We don't have anti-gaming measures yet for photo submissions (i.e exif/timestamps etc).

A token would only increase the demand and decrease quality to the most common denominator.

There's also the added UX weight of a token, every new action needs to be integrated elegantly into the UI.

Griv has hundreds of quality active users with a very high net promoter score. It's growing organically and leveraging Farcasters social graph to solve the cold start problem.

The most difficult part has yet to come, which is building a front-end client (iOS/Android). Then, taking that client into the real world. Facebook did college to college. Griv will do gym to gym.

Maybe a token has a more effective use-case down the line?

My two cents that you didn’t ask for. And I’m not a user. 

Keep doing your thing without a token - it’s working. I just found out about it naturally. You have a good idea. You’re growing! I use receipts and whoop already and the dopamine I get from seeing my workout is 10x better than any dopamine I get from a token. 

Tokens make things shittier when they’re forced. Farcaster already has enough socialfi aspects embedded into it. It’s really refreshing to see a mini-app without a token :)