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Stephen Shore on the distinction between structure & composition. There are certain kinds of photography where this is less true but I appreciate the insight of bringing order to the world. Storytelling is about what you pay attention to. A way to characterise the difference between media is how to draw that attention
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is it more about decisions made to reveal one/some particular orderly interpretation/s (among many possibles)?
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to me, it's all part of the same thing! those decisions are driven by what the artist pays attention to (consciously or not) or wants the audience to pay attention to. that focus defines the order/interpretation/narrative. 'attention' might sound trivial; I mean it in the sense of that which constitutes reality for you
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yea — same. i share (i think) your pragmatist view of how reality is constructed structure often seems to imply 'objective' reality, vs interpretation which forces the subjectiveness of attention and meaningmaking to the front
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how do you see art in relation to reality? imo meaningmaking is linked to objectivity — attention can be drawn to the illusory (meaningless) or the real (meaningful). illusion begets chaos, tho this can also be an interpretive choice. i do think there is a structure to reach for which might not quite be pragmatism(?)
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wrote a bit more about meaningmaking here: https://vaughntan.org/what-makes-us-human-for-now
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i don't have a good answer to the question of what reality is (consensual, subjective, filtered, etc). but meaning-making is sort of irreducible. i say "X means Y" and my intention creates meaning regardless of whether X or Y are illusory/real/existing/imaginary. imo, art is making meaning in that sense.
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