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@jacek
Thanks everyone for the feedback, still processing it all, but here are some of my thoughts on token burns, demand, and community alignment from today: Burning tokens alone won't create new demand. But I think token burns could still play an important role by aligning our community around shared goals. Just as examples (these are just ideas, not promises): 1. Imagine we burned 100 $DEGEN every time someone mentions DEGEN positively on Farcaster or X. Unlike airdrops (which get farmed and dumped), token burns reward the entire community by reducing supply. Instead of encouraging people to farm tokens to sell, burns encourage actions that benefit us all. 2. Another example is milestone-based burns: if we reach 100k wallets holding at least $10 in DEGEN, we burn tokens to celebrate. This aligns everyone's incentives toward shared growth and gives us clear goals to rally around. On the demand side, our protocol already earns around $30-60k per month, mostly from our liquidity pool and trading fees, plus income from treasury strategies like selling options. As our DEGEN app and mini-app gain traction, we hope this revenue will grow. We could start using this protocol revenue to buy back DEGEN from the market each month and burn it. Over a year, that's potentially over half a million dollars of buybacks, creating ongoing positive momentum. However, we also have the challenge of currently emitting ~90M DEGEN tokens per month (about $360k at current prices) through liquidity mining and allocations. Allocations will stop soon, but liquidity mining is a big question: at the current pace, that's potentially $4M of tokens emitted each year, much of which might get farmed and sold. Would we rather pause or reduce these token emissions and instead focus fully on: - Growing our fees and using them for DEGEN buybacks/burns - Introducing targeted token burns aligned with real community milestones or helpful actions like promoting DEGEN socially? Combining these strategies could really help us build more interest, attract long-term holders, and align incentives around community-driven goals. No decisions yet, just thinking aloud, and we'll discuss internally. Curious what you all think!
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Jacek.degen.eth 🎩
@jacek
TL;DR: Token burns align communities (e.g., rewarding social mentions or milestones) because everyone benefits from reduced supply. Airdrops are PvP, users compete individually, farming tokens to dump quickly. Burns plus buybacks encourage holding, aligning incentives for long-term growth.
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@mathew.eth
I like that first idea a lot. Aligns the burns with community participation. Good stuff.
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@gha5em
This is one of the best insight i have ever seen. I believe airdrops could be stopped soon. And aligning $DEGEN burn to $DEGEN mentioning in social media is very attractive as it can be like a game and i think there will be a lot of hype for $DEGEN. There can be a bot saying how much of $DEGEN has burned so far. Buy bqck is also very attractive for the community. I can’t find any negative point in your cast, there can be just some tayloring in numbers. For example, if we pass 1000 mentions of $DEGEN in a single day, each mention will burn 200 $DEGEN, otherwise, 100 $DEGEN. I can make a hype. I’m sure if there is an innovative point in $DEGEN app, no one can stop us! Something like what zora and noice have done.
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@icetoad.eth
If you ended liquidity bonuses, then you would lose a lot of liquidity and have to replace it somehow.
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@hamta.eth
Get it done — prioritize DEGEN burns immediately and put an end to the allocations.
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@kenny
personally not a fan of token burns, it's a strategy that's been tried by many many many projects and the market response I generally see is a little bump in price when the burn strategy is announced then no follow through on the market caring about the strategy after that, it gets priced in I'd still much rather see DEGEN return to its "turn content into currency" roots and think of new, innovative, robust ways to get DEGEN in the hands of creators (not through tipping though, that's obviously run it's course) DEGEN was flying high when we innovated on token distribution, and the fact we are the ONLY memecoin with a substantial treasury that can still be deployed to new community members is our greatest strength...but only if we use it creatively relying on token burning, something that's been done many times before, feels like we are drifting from those roots
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@abbass.eth
"Trust me, bro... this man is a genius." Supporting you on any decision you take on this. Nothing to add... cheers, DEGENS! 🎩🫶
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@degenfans
I use staking in PromoLeague and with each stake/unstake operation I burn the token. Means you will hold long you just get one time a percentage burn. If you do it several times it’s burning more. Optional burn for staking or only unstaking Or fixed amount and rest percentage..
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adexmakai.base.eth
@adexmakai.eth
After reading all your in take on the matter at hand. I don't have anything to say again because you have said everything, not only that but also provided reasons for all you said here. Well done! I believe the community will be happy with what you and the team later agreed to.
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@alastair
It would be good if it was programmed to become more and more scarce on a set basis kinda like halvings. Some mechanism that would make it a store of value over time If your giving out 360k a month maybe you need to burn that much a month as a minimum just to stop token deflation,
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@metopiamoon
reduce/ adjust benefits of liquidity mining might cause short-term problems, but it might be long-termly beneficial. Totally agree it is time to align more around community-driven goals.
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@procoin curate FARCAST
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@0xzahed.eth
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@ezincrypto
Love the ideas here, one I just thought of that could be a starting point could be… If a /farcaster user with $DEGEN in the warplet wallet burns some through the /degen miniapp “new burn function” 😉 You guys could possibly match the burn…🔥🔥🔥 (Also maybe the user gets entered into a raffle if you burn a certain amount, that way we’re burning out in the wild too, and it’s not all on you to dial in the burn tokenomics right away)🤷‍♂️
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@youngbanana
The first idea is fresh, i think that’s good
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@deanjohn54
Keep Building We support you boss.. U are genious..
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@schorn.eth
Would be cool to put a Degen hat on the effigy at Burning Man 🔥
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@50cal-eth
If we don’t want $Degen to be the reward token for LP, would you consider partnering with /aerodromefinance for LP?
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@gha5em
I think burning shouldn’t be based on positive mention as it needs some process. Any mention is ok. Also there may be 10-20-… mentions in just one cast/post. This should be based on the cast/post that has mentioned $DEGEN, whether one time or more.
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