mirrorandloom

So good, and drives at the heart of /mirror-loom  

"In most day-to-day physics, one is modelling other systems and it is possible to maintain a provisional separation of subject and object, or of investigator and system being investigated. Ultimately, though, we are part of the universe. The fact that we act in the domain that we are representing can make it impossible to stabilize certain facts or features of the world as objects of knowledge."

So good, and drives at the heart of /mirror-loom  

"In most day-to-day physics, one is modelling other systems and it is possible to maintain a provisional separation of subject and object, or of investigator and system being investigated. Ultimately, though, we are part of the universe. The fact that we act in the domain that we are representing can make it impossible to stabilize certain facts or features of the world as objects of knowledge."

https://www.jenanni.com/wp-content/uploads/A-Participatory-Universe-in-the-Realist-Mode.pdf