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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
"Apple doesn't have their own LLM. They can't innovate." They also don't have their own search engine yet they make $20B+ a year from search. Lesson in there.
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@kia.eth
when you are that size you make money off of anything. but are you maxing? the argument is more of a 'could they have made more if they had their own search/ad' -- google makes more than 20b off of their traffic otherwise they wouldn't pay 20b for it
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Apple is a hardware company that's good enough in software. Always has been. They win when it's about hardware differentiation + vertical integration. Frontier LLM doesn't matter if there are 3 other ones and every one of them is available as an app.
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@vrypan.eth
Profits from services is more than profits from hw in the last quarters, I think. And given that "services" in Apple's case is 99% rent seeking (google, app devs), I don't find this healthy. Also Apple use to be a great software company. All this combined, could mean that Apple is vulnerable to a paradigm shift in hw, just like Microsoft was with mobile. Curious what they'll show tomorrow.
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@kia.eth
OS level integration of LLMs is akin to the hardware differentiation you mention -- plenty of earbuds on the market (LLMs as apps) but airpods slap (OS level LLM integration could too) -- not to mention running models locally which is literally hardware differentiation agree that 'don't have a model, can't innovate' is wrong but because it's actually reverse if they were innovating they would've done better already
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