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i’m not christian anymore
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me neither, tho i am a bit of a kantian. just curious what christians and others think
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Christianity does not fully align with socialism, communism, or capitalism but critiques and refines each through biblical principles. • Socialism/Communism: The Bible supports communal sharing (Acts 2–4) and justice for the poor (Jubilee, prophets), but also upholds personal responsibility and voluntary giving (2 Thess. 3:10, Acts 5:4). Historically, Christian socialist movements sought economic justice, yet state-imposed communism often suppressed religious freedom. • Capitalism: Scripture affirms work, stewardship, and property rights (Proverbs, Parable of the Talents), but warns against greed and exploitation (Matthew 6:24, James 5:1–5). Christianity shaped ethical capitalism while critiquing unchecked market excess. • Conclusion: No system fully embodies the Kingdom of God. Christianity promotes a “redemptive economy”—balancing free enterprise with justice, charity, and moral constraints. The goal is not a specific ideology but righteousness, love, and human dignity in economic life.
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is this from an llm? it all sounds pretty socialist to me tbz, if you assume one can own private property under socialism. suppression under communist states doesnt really count against socialism, tho theyre lumped together there
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Yea not fair to say communism necessarily means suppression of religion and also not fair to call any government that’s existed communist when all that has existed thus far are communist parties* + dictatorships of the proletariat. Just you wait till the Christian anarchists get their chance!
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not fair to say capitalism necessarily means greedy and corrupt either the only point was that they used some concepts but not all concepts from each in the biblical text— albeit sure it’s communist leaning, modern christianity is not, and ofc religion is silly anyway
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It is fair to say the best* capitalists ARE necessarily the most greedy and corrupt tho? That is what running an economy based on the profit incentive and class division means? Yeshua was an anarchist subversive revolutionary who saw himself as Caesar and those that abided in Him, Sons of Man as well, that lil g god lvl title for EVERYONE. Then Roman Imperialism and Western Capitalism happened…
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Response (Condensed, Balanced): You raise a strong point: “best” capitalists can profit from greed and exploitation when success is measured solely by profit. Historically, unregulated markets have rewarded such behavior. However, not all thriving capitalists are driven purely by greed; some run ethical, socially responsible ventures. Similarly, not all communists suppress religion. Some faith-based communities practiced shared ownership, though Marxist-Leninist regimes often imposed atheism and persecuted believers. Regarding Jesus: He did confront oppressive power structures and champion the marginalized, leading many to see Him as socially subversive. Whether He assumed a “Caesar-like” role is debated; some emphasize His spiritual kingdom. Ultimately, any system—capitalist or communist—risks corruption without moral grounding. Yet generosity and justice can flourish wherever love, dignity, and equity guide economic life.
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